From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: CPerl Indentation after subs with print in their names Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:05:33 +1100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <87tzn6yc2q.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <85zlx6qlid.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> <853auxqozl.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> <85bq9h2z9r.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> <85zlx0hzph.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196249759 11492 80.91.229.10 (28 Nov 2007 11:35:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:35:59 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 28 12:41:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from [129.240.10.42] (helo=mail-forward.uio.no) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IxKJT-0000x9-1n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:38:39 +0100 Original-Received: from mail-mx4.uio.no ([129.240.10.45]) by pat.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IxJSX-0003kD-1A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:43:57 +0100 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by mail-mx4.uio.no with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IxJSH-0007su-9q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:43:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxJRH-0003hv-VZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:42:40 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!sn-xt-sjc-05!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TJEPXNm5pfRrAAzdnTQUcvClNhk= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 46 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:154192 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-UiO-SPF-Received: Received-SPF: pass (mail-mx4.uio.no: domain of gnu.org designates 199.232.76.165 as permitted sender) client-ip=199.232.76.165; envelope-from=help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org; helo=lists.gnu.org; X-UiO-ClamAV-Virus: No X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1) X-UiO-Scanned: F315801154DD239F17753136EE200FAFD380DE46 X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 199.232.76.165 spam_score: -9 maxlevel 200 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 28 total 27882 max/h 424 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:49610 Archived-At: Stefan Kamphausen writes: > Hi Ilya, > > Ilya Zakharevich writes: > >>> Nevertheless, it was wasted time on my side (comparing those files) >>> and on yours (writing posts) which could have been saved if there were >>> some comments at the beginning of the file that explained the way >>> things are. >> >> Ha, I see you presume people would read what is "at the beginning of >> the file"! And where you think this "beginning" is, before/after >> license/changelog, or where? > > Can't tell. I won't even assume that other people read all that, but > /I/ do and I always write my stuff as if others would, too :-) > > Hm, let's see ... there is this comment: > > ;; DO NOT FORGET to read micro-docs (available from `Perl' menu) <<<<<< > ;; or as help on variables `cperl-tips', `cperl-problems', <<<<<< > ;; `cperl-praise', `cperl-speed'. <<<<<< > > Somewhere close to that would be a good idea maybe. Or it could be a > micro-doc itself. cperl-development or cperl-versions or > cperl-maintenance or something like that. > >> [If you can agree on that, I put it into my TODO ;-] > > :-) > > Regards, > Stefan I have to say I agree with Stefan's point here. After quite a few years of using cperl, I can say that almost without exception, everytime I've run into problems, replacing the provided version with a newer one from Ilya's site fixes the issue. However, it can be difficult to tell which version is the later one (though I think there is more info in the file on this than there use to be - I do remember being very confused in the beginning). Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au