From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 21/22: french =?iso-8859-1?q?=E7?= and =?iso-8859-15?q?=BD?= Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:59:27 +0100 Message-ID: <87tzawix4g.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87ljwa6zjj.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bpx65fjj.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87hc6w7v9j.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <871vy0yi9a.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Uwe Brauer NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225216487 308 80.91.229.12 (28 Oct 2008 17:54:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul R Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 28 18:55:49 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KusnE-0004qs-Eb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:55:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41419 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kusm6-0004eb-4I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:54:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kuq2l-0000qX-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:59:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kuq2j-0000qL-KV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59668 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kuq2j-0000qI-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.240]:28897) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kuq2i-0004xq-QF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:59:36 -0400 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c38so199357ana.84 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-mailer:from:to:cc:subject :references:reply-to:x-hashcash:x-hashcash:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=W1h3bgcCJp0zlr+CheLeMIFLMqHl112j+sTk0coDKfs=; b=lpp6YGyShdeQG+JWESnsFfV+L7n9bE5orC3LA6z/qBQoEnjKw7ibRLGBkS7RQonjaT 4BudATwa7E6PqyevLr1bdTRkSDiy1ej9iEzig3YMTG8y7VjGRBWtuNPCCarjDr6QBFE3 t2oJAVM226fE3V1cmgPqlnSrxCHZOdbYGJReo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-mailer:from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:x-hashcash:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=WZisqf1EAEkHH0NedHFCNXY+YT9rq7MzaKVP/5Bqgdncua4tWBmq3+3hkudqQubeDf tZxwLEorjPa01ZSeVntKm8fqZypP2gKBx7f+F8v9titBMrBg4RW7iP3UFGOiOBI+7it2 BV24gCciXqHgnsZFUMmgxVfR0A//B5EGTZ0mE= Original-Received: by 10.86.96.18 with SMTP id t18mr4574964fgb.56.1225205973561; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from maportatil10 (maportatil12.quim.ucm.es [147.96.6.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm2055385fgg.0.2008.10.28.07.59.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: 21.4 (patch 19) "Constant Variable" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) X-Hashcash: 1:20:081028:emacs-devel@gnu.org::qD5NXRk1u7SS6B+t:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000056u1 X-Hashcash: 1:20:081028:paul.r.ml@gmail.com::IPXent5/mUR8IEuv:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000C7Jv In-Reply-To: <871vy0yi9a.fsf@gmail.com> (Paul R.'s message of "Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:13:53 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.4.19 (linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:53:10 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105088 Archived-At: >>>>> "Paul" =3D=3D Paul R writes: > Hello Uwe, Uwe> I am not sure whether in french oe always should be represented Uwe> by the symbol =BD? > No, it is not. The word =AB coefficient =BB is an exemple, it just can= 't > be written =AB c=BDfficient =BB. For what it's worth, also, writing > =AB coeur =BB is incorrect, it can only be written =AB c=BDur =BB. IOW= , '=BD' > really is a first class caracter in French and isn't equivalent to > 'oe'. I have been told that combinations such as=20 "oeu" --> "=BDu" and=20 "oei" --> "=BDi" So we could think of,=20 ("oei" ?=BDi)=09=09=09=09 ("oeu" ?=BDu)=09=09=09=09 But I hesitate a little to have a *three* letter combination expanded, that almost calls for a sort of abbrev mechanism. Uwe=20