From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs-w3m question Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:48:04 +0200 Organization: SunSITE.dk - Supporting Open source Message-ID: <87tzakugcr.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <87vdvdu4mp.fsf@literaturlatenight.de> <74160b46-e541-436a-a776-c8bd53d6cd55@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <1f28a20e-0c9f-4478-a85c-27ae40ed7fc9@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <4d476218-bd76-4d41-8a12-1428dfba9e9b@s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <107214be-5812-4519-bc29-a52f391f09a3@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <87bpwspvue.fsf@kobe.laptop> <5479b16f-bc86-41f7-8e13-b8f9727927a6@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <871vxombxg.fsf@kobe.laptop> <16310865-4178-4762-bab7-6eb35b093c5c@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226047308 12356 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2008 08:41:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:41:48 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 07 09:42:51 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KyMvZ-00048e-Qj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:42:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42446 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyMuS-0003hQ-9h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:41:40 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1bBGF1DYvwPDx36keBPSfWOYmG8= Original-Lines: 21 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 79.103.15.73 Original-X-Trace: news.sunsite.dk DXC=Yf]oMJb7JRAI[NbmUoDmmGYSB=nbEKnkKl:4`YVO27`OL^MjGb9LMWQ7e=5I\?gBl?N3>mH; ; eGThDY7MO Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:164214 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59548 Archived-At: On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:42:21 -0800 (PST), Xah wrote: > hi dork Giorgos Keramidas, > > the mention of Mac and Windows, is to give a context for the > expression that tech geeking morons who never used 95% of the world's > computers yet insist on how emacs's UI should or should not be. > > It is not, for example, about ur mom. Right. Well, that makes things more sensible (not). I fail to see where my mom's use of Windows (yes, she does use Windows) has anything to do with the UI of Emacs, but I can assure you that the UI is not her main difficulty when it comes to Emacs. Localized menus and a fully translated Greek manual would be more important to her and all the people who speak and write Greek, but have not had the chance to read English. Fixing *that* would be a much more important thing than agonizing about the key bindings if you ask me!