From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: is the bug tracker down? Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:49:50 +0900 Message-ID: <87tz002kdt.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <90379C0F6FF145E593A68F348DB80831@us.oracle.com> <87r5v6th4g.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <87ljletrhf.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ljlet671.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <87praob39j.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250937702 19734 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2009 10:41:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 22 12:41:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Meo2N-0007iE-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:41:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54387 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Meo2M-0004L0-Ii for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Meo18-0002rH-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:40:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Meo13-0002jo-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59718 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Meo13-0002jU-D3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:40:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:52302) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Meo11-0005ha-Vl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8819B1535A8; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:40:05 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6AE81A25CB; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:49:50 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87praob39j.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" 891381effa11+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114511 Archived-At: Bastien writes: > I don't want to criticize Don's contribution at all, but I would think > of "make sure the BTS is working properly" as part of "provide a BTS". He's probably watching logs, but they don't always show this kind of problem. If he's not submitting bugs and not watching emacs-devel, how's he gonna know? Responding promptly to problem reports is about as far he should go in "making sure", IMHO. That's pretty much what everybody does (savannah and sourceforge, for example). > > I just thought it would e simple to add a note somewhere > > that if you notice something wrong with the BTS, send mail to don's > > contact address. > > Yes, this we should do, obviously. It's already there on every page of the bugs website. The issue here is not that Don isn't doing his job, it's that the tracker is not yet a central part of the Emacs workflow, and Stefan and Yidong can very well get their work done without it. It will come; it's a better way of doing things ... just not the Emacs way, yet.