From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New sync'd branch Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:17:47 +0900 Message-ID: <87tyzrjwwk.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <878wh9qaku.fsf@sphinx.net.ru> <83praic5r5.fsf@gnu.org> <83d46gcnsb.fsf@gnu.org> <87ocq0l2hw.fsf@iki.fi> <83ab1kcmi5.fsf@gnu.org> <877hwom4og.fsf@telefonica.net> <878wh47z7z.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87y6p3luq3.fsf@telefonica.net> <87eiqv7mxm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87prafliq3.fsf@telefonica.net> <87zl9jk2cu.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87hbvrlfal.fsf@telefonica.net> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251505143 15548 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2009 00:19:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 29 02:18:56 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MhBeh-00087n-3o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:18:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46452 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MhBeg-0007tx-Cd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:18:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MhBdn-0007YN-1k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:17:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MhBdi-0007U3-BE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:17:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36336 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MhBdi-0007Ts-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]:48220) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MhBdf-0001D8-ED; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:17:51 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.109.79.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.109.79] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1MhBdc-0005FE-L7; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:17:48 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BCB99DF8D; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:17:47 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <87hbvrlfal.fsf@telefonica.net> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:55:14 +0200") Original-Lines: 47 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114800 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: >> It's very, _very_ fast. > > Yeah, as if showing a diff or a log in 0.1 seconds instead of 1 second > were a definitive advantage. > > Slowness is a reason for rejecting a tool, but being blazingly fast is > not a compelling reason for choosing it. I don't think speed is the primary reason to choose git, but it most definitely is a very appealing aspect of it. In many cases, the competition _is_ slow, and sometimes _really_ slow. While a 1 second delay is annoying, a 10 second delay starts to cause real problems, and a 2 minute delay is insane. Moreover, a _really_ fast system (where almost every operation is near-instantaneous) actually does allow different work flows; instead of feeling like you have to plan all your operations carefully, you feel free to explore (git's facile interface and transparency really help here too of course). Combined with most operations being purely local, it really feels _different_ (in a very good way) from past systems. >> Anyway, it's pretty clear that many, many, very smart people really like >> git, _despite_ the strong competition. Why do you think that is? >> >> [Hint: your silly claim that it's all because of "linux worship" are >> just clueless flamebait.] > > First you say that very smart people is choosing git as an evidence of > its superiority, and then dismiss as flamebait my assertion that > Torvarlds' authorship is one of the main reasons for git's popularity. Yeesh, I can't believe you're trying to defend your silly troll, but: I'm not claiming that "many smart people choosing git" is a _reason_ for others (e.g. us) to choose git (though, in fact it's obviously a better reason than a single smart person!), I'm asking why you think they chose it. It's a reality check of your flamebait. -Miles --=20 Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche