From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:12:28 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87typbl5sz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <8739x2vehv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <878w6truxc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87typc9dt8.fsf@kzsu.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291830679 5962 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 17:51:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 17:51:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 18:51:16 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQOAd-0006WJ-5D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:51:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39121 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQOAc-0006eG-CY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:51:14 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed-0.progon.net!progon.net!newsfeed.ision.net!newsfeed2.easynews.net!ision!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ogq671sfigFWnEReQzKBcLFLwV4= Original-Lines: 21 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jun 2010 09:12:30 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: e9a05885.newsspool3.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=7Tm2Je\CTWSU6b:FjPaGjQMcF=Q^Z^V3X4Fo<]lROoRQ8kF5MOK` List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75733 Archived-At: Mark Crispin writes: > On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Joseph Brenner posted: >> May I suggest that: >> (1) Backwards compatibility is important. >> (2) Gratuitious changes should be avoided. >> (3) Breakage on upgrade is Not Good. >> I can't believe we even need to argue about this. > > With arrogant system programmers, you do. If you like beating up strawmen. The actual question is what constitutes "gratuitious" and how to weigh different categories. That is decided in discussions on the developer lists which everybody can participate in. Spouting abuse in other lists, in contrast, is not going to cause a difference except to self-importancy. -- David Kastrup