From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Google modules integration Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:01:26 -0400 Message-ID: <87tyljkrvt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <878w3a1x9s.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <87d3sadqlt.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285085221 18974 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2010 16:07:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: carsten.dominik@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Julien Danjou Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 21 18:06:58 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy5Mu-0000tX-4B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:06:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52925 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oy5Ms-0004Pi-4G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:06:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60901 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oy5Hh-000242-FJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:01:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy5Hf-00065d-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:01:33 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po26.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.121]:37943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy5Hf-00065V-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:01:31 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014154.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po26.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o8LG1QrZ026227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:01:27 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D8D8C018; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:01:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87d3sadqlt.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> (Julien Danjou's message of "Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:34:06 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130578 Archived-At: Julien Danjou writes: > Has a consensus been reached out or will this be ignored? I agree with RMS that there is nothing wrong in principle with Google Maps and Google Weather as services, but I dislike the idea of adding Google branding into Emacs, in the form of "google-maps.el", etc. (Yes, "Java" and "Javascript" are also trademarks associated with proprietary software companies, but those are programming languages and their presence is mostly unavoidable if Emacs is to function as a programmers' editor.) Regarding the map package, I think we can include it provided OpenStreetMaps is used by default, and the package name is changed into something more generic (net-maps, maybe?), including function and variable names. Stefan, WDYT? Analogous steps could be taken for the weather package (e.g. accepting the NOAA feed instead of Google's API).