From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs tool bar on Fedora14 Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:40:00 -0500 Message-ID: <87tyjlmb33.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <4CDADD76.9070809@alice.it> <4CDAF28C.8040405@swipnet.se> <4CDD7CE5.4050809@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289666419 27220 80.91.229.12 (13 Nov 2010 16:40:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Angelo Graziosi , Stefan Monnier , Emacs To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 13 17:40:14 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHJ9C-00037t-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:40:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57956 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PHJ9B-0002ya-Nu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:40:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35632 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PHJ95-0002yV-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:40:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PHJ91-0003wo-Nw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:40:07 -0500 Original-Received: from pantheon-po26.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.121]:54305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PHJ91-0003wj-MH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:40:03 -0500 Original-Received: from furball (c-71-192-165-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net [71.192.165.84]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po26.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id oADGe1R5005962 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:40:02 -0500 Original-Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 42C8C16062F; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:40:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4CDD7CE5.4050809@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:44:05 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132601 Archived-At: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: >> BTW, I couldn't figure out how to customize it in Gnome. I do remember >> seeing such an option somewhere (maybe in gnome-appearance-properties) >> at some point in the past, but I can't seem to find it any more. >> > > There used to be an Interface tab in Appearance but it has been > removed by the Gnome people. I guess that is logical, as they seem to > move towards a customization-free desktop. They decided that > both-horiz (icon followed by text) is what everybody should have. The trouble is that this means that only 4-5 buttons will fit on the tool-bar, by default. I observe that in Gedit, some of the tool-bar buttons are just icons (New, Print, Redo, Cut/Copy/Paste, Search), while others are accompanied by text labels (Open, Save, Undo). This lets them fit more buttons in. Other Gnome applications do the same thing. If we are going to use text labels, we should probably implement this.