From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Sieger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-20101122 windows binaries Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: <87tyj5hsu8.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8762vpj9ep.fsf@gmail.com> <87d3pwt759.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> <871v6cjagz.fsf@gmail.com> <874ob7tzlr.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> <834ob78ixa.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290728661 14481 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2010 23:44:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:44:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 26 00:44:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PLlU9-0001fF-Ou for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:44:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47079 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PLlU9-0000pJ-A5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:44:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48839 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PLlU1-0000ni-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:44:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PLlTz-0003aO-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:44:09 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:40822) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PLlTz-0003Zr-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:44:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PLlTw-0001XH-D2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:44:04 +0100 Original-Received: from pool-70-18-205-205.ny325.east.verizon.net ([70.18.205.205]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:44:04 +0100 Original-Received: from sean.sieger by pool-70-18-205-205.ny325.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:44:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-18-205-205.ny325.east.verizon.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z9vTAOB1YpdxVI9LAqQwq9yX6gc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133144 Archived-At: Jason Rumney writes: > - Releases should or should not include debug info? In my experience, users complain (still in 2010) about the size of the binary if it changes drastically between releases. So shipping without debug info avoids such complaints at the expense that bugs are harder to debug (but most users that would be willing to debug for you will be using the snapshots or willing to build from source anyway). Stefan Monnier writes: Actually, this discussion made me realize that we want the release package to be distributed without debug info: if we need debug info we might as well ask the user to install the snapshot version. Thank you for your patience (I looked in my .notes: this is the second time both of you have told me this) and for thinking this out.