From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:04:14 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87tyfi69up.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87sjv6r38q.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299261885 7641 80.91.229.12 (4 Mar 2011 18:04:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:04:45 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 04 19:04:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvZMi-0003mY-S6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:04:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58414 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PvZMi-0006oX-8z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:04:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44550 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PvZMe-0006no-6V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:04:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PvZMd-0001Xm-55 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:04:32 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:50917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PvZMc-0001XX-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:04:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvZMY-0003fG-4e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:04:26 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:04:26 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:04:26 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:R2jJrIT6aN9/eaCCiryJgB70/sI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:136767 Archived-At: On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:18:03 -0700 Tom Tromey wrote: Julien> Especially if Emacs was able to build and load an autoload file for the Julien> files placed in that directory. The user would have *nothing* to do to Julien> use a new feature. Not even touching its `user-init-file'. Tom> package.el does this, more or less. It doesn't just load all files, but Tom> does some version and dependency checks. But, e.g., it is trivial for Tom> el-get to be supplied as a package. This feature is enabled by default Tom> in Emacs 24. OK, but there's no general facility to do this. If I want to bundle up some code and load it on startup, I have to modify the load-path and my startup .emacs right now (which encourages monolithic configurations and other bad practices). I don't think package.el should be required to do this kind of modularization. As far as el-get, I guess it could be made into a package, but it's a package manager and has to work in cases where package.el is not available or the user doesn't want to use it. I don't think el-get is the only use for the general load-dir facility, in any case. Ted