From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: face for non-ASCII characters Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:45:53 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87tydk2w7i.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <874o5uie42.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y635dll9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r58vbj7o.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwpba03q.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o5rqr5z.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxjjpal4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwpabgdv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87pqo8vph6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fwp4esun.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87aafchi30.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303875975 4580 80.91.229.12 (27 Apr 2011 03:46:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:46:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 27 05:46:11 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvha-0000Y7-Nh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:46:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55767 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvha-00047r-B0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:46:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41367) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvhY-00047i-GM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:46:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvhX-0004k4-Au for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:46:08 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:36504) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvhW-0004k0-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:46:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvhV-0000WP-W4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:46:05 +0200 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:46:05 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:46:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UO0A5q3azEo1xhYLsJ4IXGk3xIE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138829 Archived-At: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:29:39 -0400 Chong Yidong wrote: CY> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> OTOH it's very nice to be told "hey, you could have X if you installed >> package Y." I think it's good to know about these opportunities at >> customization time. CY> That's more similar to "recommended packages" in OS-level packaging. CY> I don't object, in principle, to adding functionality along those lines. CY> But the markchars.el and idn.el situation actually points to an CY> important danger. IIUC, the straightforward solution would be to make CY> idn.el a dependency, but that's been made difficult by the tangle of CY> copyright and other problems in nXhtml. So this kind of functionality CY> might tend to encourage end-runs around mainline Emacs ("come use my CY> version, and all this extra functionality is magically turned on!"). We could enforce the rule that you're only allowed to recommend other packages that live within the same ELPA or something even more carefully controlled (a fsf-kevin-bacon-number equal or greater than the current one, if you know what I mean). So the Emacs core can recommend anything else in the core. The GNU ELPA can recommend things in the GNU ELPA or the Emacs core. Tom Tromey's ELPA can recommend things in itself or the GNU ELPA or the Emacs core... Ted