From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johnny Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Handling mail Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:08:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87tyanfp4o.fsf@gmx.co.uk> References: <19998.64601.266213.844826@phoenix.squirrel.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310754602 8059 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2011 18:30:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Johan Vromans Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 15 20:29:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhn99-0004Oz-9g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:29:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57539 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhn97-0006Kk-P7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:29:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhlvG-0000Iz-C7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:11:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhlvB-0002WH-W2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:11:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com ([213.165.64.42]:36183) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhlvB-0002V9-7k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:11:25 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Jul 2011 17:11:22 -0000 Original-Received: from 78-86-131-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk (EHLO DeuxExMachina) [78.86.131.176] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu005) with SMTP; 15 Jul 2011 19:11:22 +0200 X-Authenticated: #57368918 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+BXOwTYUeBuFqQuiRzdGYSDbSaN2KXhqL8AhG6Qu X7nKX48xRxeIZ5 In-Reply-To: <19998.64601.266213.844826@phoenix.squirrel.nl> (Johan Vromans's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:25:29 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 213.165.64.42 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81602 Archived-At: Johan Vromans writes: > After having used GNU/Emacs+VM for 20-odd years I wonder: is it still > viable to use Emacs to handle modern mail? I believe so. I migrated to Gnus some two years ago and see no option of going back to e.g. internet based mail readers. And at work I constantly get frustrated with being unable to get Outlook to do automatic filtering, scoring, expiry, what not. What do you think is the option and what is lacking in emacs mail clients? > Most mail and mail-related packages (e.g. VM, BBDB, MailCrypt, WL) > seem to be outdated and unmaintained for years. Gnus and BBDB have active development. > Many problems exist with multi-media mail, Unicode, and so on. What problems are you encountering with multimedia? I find it great to be able to define e.g. in Gnus custom handlers to inline word and pdf docs as text for easy copy paste editing (maybe not exactly multimedia, but I am not a heavy mail/news multimedia user). > Gnus seems to be the only package that is up-to-date (I use it for > reading news and mailing lists), however I've never been able to live > with it as a news reader. I'm very hooked to VM's virtual folders. > My dearest wish is to continue using Emacs for mail but currently this > feels like a dead end. I am using Gnus for RSS through virtual groups to aggregate specialised news feeds and with scoring am able to keep up to date with latest developments easily. However, as I have no exprience with other news readers I cannot compare. > What are your ideas and suggestions? These are my opionons based on my usage and needs, but I'd suggest you give it a go. Basically, if you want control over your computer usage and information flow and are willing to configure usage to your needs, there's no real option (or?). But if you're a casual user only looking for convenient mail/news and have no need for specific configurations, there are probably getter solutions. Given your emacs experience, I'd guess you're in the former group though. Cheers! -- Johnny