From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daiki Ueno Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9112: 24.0.50; EasyPG - creating new gpg-encrypted files fails Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 06:32:26 +0900 Message-ID: <87tya095sl.fsf-ueno@unixuser.org> References: <87oc0sfge8.fsf@niu.edu> <20022.49618.747295.789434@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312234369 21642 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2011 21:32:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9112-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Roland Winkler" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 01 23:32:44 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo06O-0007Pe-67 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:32:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52394 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo06N-0003G2-KJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:32:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42443) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo06K-0003Ex-E7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:32:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo06J-0001Ll-4z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:32:40 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35158) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo06J-0001Lc-20 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:32:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo06h-0007so-1e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:33:03 -0400 Resent-From: Daiki Ueno Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 9112 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Mail-Followup-To: 9112@debbugs.gnu.org, ueno@unixuser.org Original-Received: via spool by 9112-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D9112.131223438130286 (code D ref 9112); Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9112-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2011 21:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo06f-0007sM-63 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:33:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ivory4.scn-net.ne.jp ([219.117.176.192]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo06a-0007s6-Re; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ([192.168.0.187]) (envelope sender: ) by ivory4.scn-net.ne.jp with Active!Hunter esmtp server; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 06:32:28 +0900 Original-Received: Received: from well-done.deisui.org (g187018.scn-net.ne.jp [202.83.187.18]) (authenticated) by blue17.scn-net.ne.jp (unknown) with ESMTP id p71LWRfV019145; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 06:32:27 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20022.49618.747295.789434@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:10:10 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:33:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49775 Archived-At: tags 9112 notabug thanks "Roland Winkler" writes: >> The default value of epa-file-select-keys has changed from nil to >> 'silent in Emacs 24, which means symmetric encryption is now default. >> You could set the variable to nil for the compatible behavior. > > I see. Just curious: what was the reason for this change? I browsed > emacs-devel and bug-gnu-emacs (and etc/NEWS), but I could not find > anything. I found the bug which caused this change: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=7487#49 > ...Well, it would be nice if either gpg or emacs could tell the user > that the file the user wants to save is just about to go through > symmetric encryption (and not any other encryption mechanism the > user might hope for). Otherwise, any misunderstanding concerning the > encryption mechanism could imply that a file is essentially lost > after saving. Right, but some people (Ted and Lars at least) feel the behavior too verbose. Maybe pinentry could be improved to display what gpg will do. Actually I sometimes use gnome-keyring-daemon's gpg-agent support, which displays two passphrase entries for confirmation and that implies symmetric encryption. Regards, -- Daiki Ueno