From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:35:06 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87ty47r5yt.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <877h17scdo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb0b77nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739bvs27m.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ty4b4329.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hb0b3yoe.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6ED011D5-E185-44C6-BB31-A445A4E5F83A@gmail.com> <87wr976otx.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipkq6yy5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87boqi6tzz.fsf@linux-hvfx.site> <87ehve3ul8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lipl22xm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87boqh20ha.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871urc46c9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <739bsoysp.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325943330 13618 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 13:35:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:35:30 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 14:35:26 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjWQd-00057H-EC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:35:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37015 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjWQd-0008L9-1V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:35:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45221) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjWQZ-0008Kh-DU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:35:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjWQX-0006Rb-Qk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:35:19 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:34289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjWQX-0006RV-KE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:35:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjWQW-00053H-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:35:16 +0100 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:35:16 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:35:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lz/ombOeYhVSZ+xda2vYufFnKPs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147443 Archived-At: On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 06:40:38 +0100 Richard Riley wrote: RR> I dont want to bicker and be petty but felt Ted was getting a bit of RR> a hard time for merely wanting to make things better for the end RR> user and, more importantly, the new adopter. Not at all, everyone in the discussion made good points and helped me (and others, I hope) see things more clearly. It's not always obvious to any single developer, especially me with my limited W32 experience, what's the right approach on a particular platform and how to balance that with the general Emacs needs. Ted