From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:10:49 +0900 Message-ID: <87ty3p60wm.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20120118.161204.348826368.wl@gnu.org> <20248.15413.907023.894588@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4x1uqv4pbx.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <056566D61BA5441E860782777E736F44@us.oracle.com> <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> <4F19EBE7.4010902@cs.ucla.edu> <878vl1amcv.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4F1A143D.8090603@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327126278 2665 80.91.229.12 (21 Jan 2012 06:11:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 21 07:11:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RoUAO-0008Ts-9d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:11:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45570 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoUAN-0005F0-C1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56283) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoUAI-0005Eu-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoUAE-0003ss-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:50808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoUAD-0003sZ-V3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:10:58 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2FD9707AA; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:10:49 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8AC881A32C6; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:10:49 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4F1A143D.8090603@cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" e6b5c49f9e13 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147803 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > On 01/20/2012 05:13 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > > maybe it would be nicer to have %` and %' for > > open/close quote instead As Jim Cloos pointed out, we (at least he and I ;-) want to move in the direction of semantic markup. Also, I can just see people abusing the one-sided quotes to get a "pretty" apostrophe. > I had thought of that, but %' already has a different > meaning with POSIX printf (it inserts thousands grouping > characters when formatting numbers), and we might want to > implement that in Emacs someday. > > We could use some other combinations, e.g., %< and %> > (they kinda look like French quote marks). It's possible > to support both, You're getting carried away. No thank you to multiple ways to do something that's purely cosmetic.