From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs and Java Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:18:22 +0530 Message-ID: <87txuzo6bd.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87har0onhj.wl%f@mazzo.li> <877grvpwyk.wl%f@mazzo.li> <83obl7u2fb.fsf@gnu.org> <874nmza61o.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347709652 8884 80.91.229.3 (15 Sep 2012 11:47:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:47:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 15 13:47:36 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCqqW-0003Zy-4s for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:47:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37278 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCqqS-0003BG-9V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:47:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCqqM-0003AF-Vv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:47:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCqqM-0006Xp-2T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:47:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:55408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCqqL-0006Xi-S9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:47:25 -0400 Original-Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14so3407570dad.0 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:47:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=uphB+wfLwX9dFZUMfrtxOV1tc/KC7SVjporweer8erI=; b=Ptrk5S6lpQpG320st2cqfZkHsjTcUlNSXR+cZ/x10poFymKkG67vKr+/5+Ky86uSfI xdVQzqEBXmFwRH6aMeBZVlSvJRSnI9N62cHMVKx4rEZ7LnvKQa4fpc3UNtIawzluePqf qxL9MvvtoFHOjE18+i7bXTupgLYOr9VV2KX/bR/Xi4DoiSNnOg8LvZ2w1c60+YCrDRyR um0St0MRDE5WREDQ+Am90QxGkJKnLFp4jil4znSIsfl6GM5JjuIaYi8aYEDL9K53HJbD 1yQXTqgJ34XIlFYpnfZZThLFl3xpQSmSuymEJRnU0pgXF9PEyT0HL7DiSBmiSNXLCuXb o3Ng== Original-Received: by 10.68.213.5 with SMTP id no5mr10413928pbc.24.1347709645001; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.67.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hx9sm2817365pbc.68.2012.09.15.04.47.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:47:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874nmza61o.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:47:55 +0530") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86792 Archived-At: Jambunathan K writes: > I think a sense of entitlement shouldn't even be exhibited by members > who make annual subscription to FSF. A typical donor - be it a member or a user - is agreeing to support FSF in broader terms even though he could be doing it with narrow interests. There is no reason well-meaning donor(s) can commission a specific work, hire engineers (in the usual sense) and have that WORK donated to Emacs/FSF. Considering FSF goals, I think such an effort and donation will be more valuable than mere annual subscription. Working out the logistics and organizing such a thing may be beyond the means of average Joe or Joes. At the minimum, an average Joe should understand either his unwillingness to do such work or accept his incompetence in doing so. --