From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Schulte Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtCVUddIGBvcmctbG9hZC1ub2Vycm9yLW11c3RzdWZmaXg=?= =?UTF-8?B?wrQgaXMgbm90IGRlZmluZWQsIGludHJvZHVjZWQgYnkgNTQ4NGEzM2I=?= Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:28:48 -0700 Message-ID: <87txqovnv3.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a9sh3tsp.fsf@gmail.com> <877gnlknlx.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87sj69ro12.fsf@gmail.com> <87pq1dj76n.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87hamprlob.fsf@gmail.com> <11306.1357839845@alphaville> <874niosy6w.fsf@gmail.com> <87txqodgix.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33637) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNoE-0003NS-7Y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:29:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNoB-0000Mw-HA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:29:02 -0500 Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com ([209.85.223.171]:37953) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TtNoB-0000Mr-BT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:28:59 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 17so1318540iea.16 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:28:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87txqodgix.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:44:38 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: Nick Dokos , Org Mode Mailing List --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Bastien writes: > Hi Eric, > > Eric Schulte writes: > >> If this problem is specific to my situation I'm happy to ignore it until >> I can update my elpa version of Org-mode to a newer one. Alternately I >> could just remove my ELPA install of Org-mode, as it was only installed >> to answer questions on the mailing list, and I don't think side-by-side >> ELPA and source Org-modes are necessarily something that needs to be >> supported. > > I confirm `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix' is *not* in the ELPA tarball, > so somehow your initialization (auto)loads recent Org files, and then > the ELPA load path takes over. > > As said in http://orgmode.org/elpa.html: > > ,---- > | By default, Emacs loads packages after it loads your Emacs init file. > | > | We recommend intializing packages as early as possible in your Emacs > | init file so that your Org configuration will be correctly handled: > | > | ;; -*- emacs-lisp -*- > | (package-initialize) ;; Initialize & Install Package > | ;; (setq org-...) ;; Your custom settings > | > | The package initialization should happen before you require Org and > | set any Org options. > `---- > > So yes, I'd suggest removing Org ELPA version completely.. This is done I now have no Org packages in my ELPA. However I *still* can't use any version of Org-mode post the 5484a33b commit. For the simplest possible reproduction instructions, try the following. 1. mv your init.el to a backup locate 2. replace your init.el with the attached (update paths as appropriate) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: inline; filename=init.el Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (load-file "~/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/org-compat.el") (load-file "~/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/org.el") --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain 3. start Emacs For me this minimal setup works with versions of Org-mode prior to 5484a33b, but fails with the current master branch. As a side note, is it intended that users should have to load org-compat.el before loading org.el? Best, -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte --=-=-=--