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[79.201.102.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b42sm60744194eem.9.2013.10.22.13.07.09 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:07:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878uxnwyr6.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:03:16 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.215.174 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94147 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Menelaos Maglis writes: > >>> It would be better if Gmail worked with the Firefox >>> extension `It's all text', which it used to; but >>> since Gmail moved to the "new compose experience" it >>> doesn't work anymore. >> >> This is what usually happens with proprietary closed >> software. Some design decisions are made that brake >> nicely working interfaces (e.g. "It's all Text") and >> the users have no control. > > What does it matter what Gmail does? Gmail is for people > who like Gmail. If you don't like Gmail, but Emacs, you > can use the Emacs message mode to compose, the ~/.mailrc > file to keep an address book, and Gnus or Rmail to > read/organize. Well this discussion was about someone who _likes_ GMail but prefers to edit the mail body in Emacs. Something that was possible with the firefox extension that got broken by a GMail change. Hence his fustration. > > If this is something you would like to do, but are > hesitant as to *how*, this list is here to help. I use GMail when my Gnus is not around. When I get the time I will switch away from GMail to a self-hosted email solution altogether. > > There is no point being frustrated what other people do > or do not. I was by no means furstrated. Simply pointing out the perils of using proprietary closed software.