From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: "Adobe Brackets like" editing in emacs Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:18:21 +0900 Message-ID: <87txaukeia.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395202780 3989 80.91.229.3 (19 Mar 2014 04:19:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 04:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "rms@gnu.org" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: arthur miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 19 05:19:49 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ7ym-0002pc-8K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 05:19:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38562 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ7yl-0001Sq-LW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:19:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41089) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ7yb-0001Rb-H7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:19:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ7yU-0003F8-5T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:19:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:39990) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQ7yT-0002vE-K3; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:19:30 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79A39708AF; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:18:21 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D4D4D1A28DC; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:18:21 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170513 Archived-At: arthur miller writes: > Thanks for the fast answer. > For example while editing html, if one clicks on an element, code > for css-style property for that element is displayed direclty below > under the lineof the code for that tag and one can edit that > particular piece of css. Which CSS property? The "C" in CSS stands for "cascading". That is, there may be a style attribute on the current element, there may be a style element in the document, and there may be multiple rel=style links in the document, any of which might be what you're editing. Or you might actually be creating a style attribute on the element. > They call it "quick edit". Is it trademarked? ;-) > It is a bit faster way to work since one does not have to switch > between files. Uh, if it's in an external stylesheet you *must* switch files. I assume you mean you don't have to switch *windows*? For your style of editing to be efficient, does it really have to be in the same window, or would it be OK if it popped up in a tooltip- like, undecorated window very close to the point you click on? Unlike a tooltip, which tries to stay out of the way, it would always appear in exactly the same place, though. (I ask because I think I would prefer a separate popup window, perhaps with a different background, to transiently inserting text in the current buffer. I think I would want that window immediately below the modified element's open tag.) > I am not sure if I am really that good in explaining, english is > not my first (or second) language. Your explanation is perfectly understandable, but you should avoid giving examples which don't help much. For example, intellisense: > Well it is pretty similar to what is called "intellisense", but it > does not pop-up in a new window and offers code editing rather than > code completition. In other words, it has nothing in common with intellisense, except that it's context-sensitive. If you don't have the word "context- sensitive", I can understand why you'd use intellisense as an example, but it didn't help me at all because the context that intellisense uses (a partial word from the same program) is rather different from the context used here (a cross-file link). I would use the analogy of a link in a web page, except that instead of your focus jumping to the linked content (which is annoying and inefficient for a transient activity), the linked content is "pulled" to your focus point temporarily.