all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with this defcustom?
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 00:50:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tx5yh35q.fsf@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.6309.1406759543.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com> writes:

> What I mean is, Emacs Lisp has several types of
> equality, eq, equal, etc. Thien-Thi Nguyen corrected
> my mistake about lisp reader syntax. That is,
> "'(something)" turns into "(quote (something))".

Yes.

> This is a conversion that happens before evaluation
> is involved and before equality is involved (as you
> may know). Then later evaluation turns it into
> "(something)".

Yeah? Isn't it just plain evaluation inside-out?

(equal '(something) (quote (something)))     ; t
(equal '(something) (quote (somethingelse))) ; nil

> The lisp reader is very separate from the lisp
> interpreter or compiler, for example think about
> this: (let* ((x 1257) #'x) function)

OK? What does that illustrate?

Is there a hidden layer somewhere?

Equality in terms of data, isn't that just comparing
the end results of evaluation? (And this equality being
defined differently for the different functions.)

Equality in terms of code - can that be anything short
of identical code (perhaps not taking indentation and
such into account)?

-- 
underground experts united


       reply	other threads:[~2014-07-30 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.6309.1406759543.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-30 22:50 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2014-07-31 21:56   ` Whats wrong with this defcustom? Robert Thorpe
     [not found] <mailman.6265.1406683969.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-30  2:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-30  2:25   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-30 22:32   ` Robert Thorpe
     [not found] <mailman.6258.1406678132.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-30  0:34 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-07-30  1:32   ` Robert Thorpe
     [not found] <mailman.6065.1406372149.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-07-26 12:58 ` Olve
2014-07-26 13:32   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-07-26 10:55 Thorsten Jolitz
2014-07-28  8:58 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-07-28 10:06   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-07-28 22:33   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-07-28 23:09     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-07-29  0:46       ` Robert Thorpe
2014-07-29  2:06         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-07-29 23:55           ` Robert Thorpe
2014-07-29  8:19         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-07-28 13:17 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-07-28 13:54   ` Thorsten Jolitz

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87tx5yh35q.fsf@debian.uxu \
    --to=embe8573@student.uu.se \
    --cc=help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.