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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master e820f16: Added file-tree-walk to files.el.
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:41:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tx1cu1nm.fsf@zigzag.favinet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmw74hhrq.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:34:14 -0500")

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() Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
() Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:34:14 -0500

   How many freaking times will i have to tell you include
   ChangeLog-formatted entries in the commit messages?

To reduce stress, you should draw a line in the sand:
- write it down;
- adopt a conformance-gate policy (and write THAT down);
- enforce it dispassionately.

By "write it down" i mean add it to HACKING or similar.
E.g., that's what i do for GNU Serveez:

 http://git.sv.gnu.org/cgit/serveez.git/tree/HACKING?h=p#n262

Alternatively, big projects (e.g., Linux) have a hierarchical
"pull priv" structures.  People push to public, but ephemeral,
branches and someone higher (in authority) only merges into
the "mainline" (via pulls) when satisfied that the candidate
branch has the right characteristics (form and content).

Otherwise, you will have to continue to play babysitter, and
(i think my fellow babysitters will concur) that's not so much
fun after the Nth "accident"...

In sum: Tough Love -- Just Do It -- Invest Wisely Soon.  :-D

-- 
Thien-Thi Nguyen
   GPG key: 4C807502
   (if you're human and you know it)
      read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical)
                               (not (via 'mailing-list)))
                     => nil

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-03 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 249+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1XwAvL-0006M3-CA@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2014-12-03 15:31   ` [Emacs-diffs] master e820f16: Added file-tree-walk to files.el Stefan Monnier
2014-12-03 19:31     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-03 21:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-03 21:54         ` Metaproblem, part 3 Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-03 22:13           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04  6:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04  6:32           ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-04 15:37             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04 16:06               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-04 17:53                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04 21:48                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-04 22:53                   ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-05  4:40                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  7:20                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-05  8:06                       ` Glenn Morris
2014-12-05 11:24                         ` andres.ramirez
2014-12-05 14:26                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 14:46                         ` David Kastrup
2014-12-05 14:47                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-05 18:38                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-06 17:29                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-06 18:05                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-13 22:03                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-12-04 15:40             ` Generate ChangeLogs (was: Metaproblem, part 3) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-04 17:23               ` Generate ChangeLogs Karl Fogel
2014-12-04 17:28                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-04 17:40               ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-04 19:09                 ` Achim Gratz
2014-12-05  8:07                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-12-06  2:24                   ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-04 18:18               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-04 13:58           ` Metaproblem, part 3 Phillip Lord
2014-12-04 14:32             ` João Távora
2014-12-04 17:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 10:27                 ` João Távora
2014-12-05 10:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 11:21                     ` João Távora
2014-12-05 11:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 12:20                         ` João Távora
2014-12-05 13:16                           ` Kelvin White
2014-12-05 14:52                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06  5:38                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-06  7:07                               ` João Távora
2014-12-06  8:03                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-08 11:40                                   ` [mentor-request] a darkroom/writeroom mode for Emacs João Távora
2014-12-08 12:15                                     ` joakim
2014-12-09 11:46                                       ` João Távora
2014-12-09 12:45                                         ` joakim
2014-12-10  2:39                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-08 12:40                                     ` Rasmus
2014-12-09 11:28                                       ` [mentoring] " João Távora
2014-12-09 12:20                                         ` Rasmus
2014-12-09 13:11                                           ` João Távora
2014-12-09 14:56                                             ` Rasmus
2014-12-10  0:54                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-10  1:22                                                 ` Rasmus
2014-12-09 22:25                                             ` Rasmus
2014-12-11 11:22                                               ` João Távora
2014-12-11 17:15                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 11:19                                                   ` João Távora
2014-12-11 18:33                                                 ` Rasmus
2014-12-12 11:16                                                   ` João Távora
2014-12-12 12:09                                                     ` Rasmus
2014-12-15 12:01                                                       ` [mentoring-done] " João Távora
2014-12-15 13:06                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 13:20                                                           ` João Távora
2014-12-15 13:47                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 13:55                                                               ` João Távora
2014-12-15 14:38                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15 13:19                                                         ` martin rudalics
2014-12-15 13:37                                                           ` João Távora
2014-12-15 14:15                                                             ` martin rudalics
2014-12-15 14:54                                                               ` João Távora
2014-12-15 15:28                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2014-12-15 22:10                                                                   ` João Távora
2014-12-12 14:27                                                     ` [mentoring] " Drew Adams
2014-12-12 14:38                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 16:32                                         ` Phillip Lord
2014-12-08 11:46                                   ` [mentor-request] Ecco - a literate programming documentation generator João Távora
2014-12-21 20:17                                   ` Results of the "mentoring" experiment Re: Metaproblem, part 3 João Távora
2014-12-21 21:22                                     ` Rasmus
2014-12-22 14:14                                     ` Results of the "mentoring" experiment Stephen Leake
2014-12-22 16:01                                       ` João Távora
2014-12-22 16:03                                       ` João Távora
2014-12-05 12:16                       ` Metaproblem, part 3 Phillip Lord
2014-12-05 13:20                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-12-05 14:59                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06  5:45                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-06  6:18                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-06  8:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 16:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-06  8:29                         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-12-06 10:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 10:40                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-12-06 10:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 11:04                           ` David Kastrup
2014-12-06 12:52                             ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-12-07  1:41                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-12-09 12:29                               ` João Távora
2014-12-06 14:18                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-07  1:38                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-12-06 10:51                         ` David Kastrup
2014-12-07  9:19                           ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 10:56                 ` Phillip Lord
2014-12-05 11:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 12:09                     ` Phillip Lord
2014-12-05 14:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 19:32     ` [Emacs-diffs] master e820f16: Added file-tree-walk to files.el David Engster
2014-12-03 19:53       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-03 19:58         ` David Engster
2014-12-03 20:08           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-03 20:28             ` David Engster
2014-12-03 20:58               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-04 20:28                 ` David Engster
2014-12-04 20:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05  2:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  8:06                     ` Glenn Morris
2014-12-03 15:34   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-03 16:41     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2014-12-03 18:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 18:36         ` Tom
2014-12-03 19:21           ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-03 19:27             ` Tom
2014-12-03 18:58         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-03 19:26           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-03 19:11         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-03 19:27     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-03 19:41       ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-03 20:03         ` Commit comment rules - and a metaproblem Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-03 20:26         ` [Emacs-diffs] master e820f16: Added file-tree-walk to files.el Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 21:14           ` More metaproblem Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-03 22:13             ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-04  6:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04  8:38                 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 10:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 10:23                   ` David Kastrup
2014-12-04 15:35                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04 16:33                     ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 17:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 20:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04 21:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 23:03                     ` chad
2014-12-04  9:08                 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 10:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 10:11                     ` David Kastrup
2014-12-04 10:27                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-04 10:35                       ` David Kastrup
2014-12-04 11:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 11:07                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-05  1:23                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-05  6:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 18:33                 ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-04 21:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 22:01                     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-12-05  7:08                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05  7:55                         ` Aurélien Aptel
2014-12-05  8:44                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 10:41                           ` the Emacs wiki Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 10:58                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 21:28                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 22:47                               ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-09  8:04                                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-09 22:28                                   ` Alexis
2014-12-10 21:32                                     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-06  5:11                         ` More metaproblem Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-06  7:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 11:52                       ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-05 22:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 16:51                     ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-05 16:57                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-05 18:24                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-05 21:16                           ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-05 18:56                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:27                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 17:52                         ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-05 18:39                           ` Glenn Morris
2014-12-05 21:23                             ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-05 22:24                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-05 22:41                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-05 23:02                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 23:12                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06  4:58                                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-06  7:42                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 11:35                                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-06 11:58                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-12-06 12:35                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 14:10                                           ` Werner LEMBERG
2014-12-06  9:27                           ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 10:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 11:41                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-06 12:37                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 13:16                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-06 14:22                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 18:19                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-05 21:14                         ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-05 21:23                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-05 18:20                       ` Glenn Morris
2014-12-05 18:56                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-05 20:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-08 17:16                             ` Glenn Morris
2014-12-09 11:00                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-06  9:41                           ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06  9:10                       ` maintaining FSF Emacs web page Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 17:57                         ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-07  9:20                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-09 12:30                           ` Alex Schroeder
2014-12-10  8:24                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-06  9:19                       ` More metaproblem Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 16:44                         ` Drew Adams
2014-12-06 18:41                           ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 19:24                             ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 22:07                               ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-07 23:00                                 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-08 15:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-08 21:23                                 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2014-12-09 16:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-10  9:16                                     ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-10 19:46                                     ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2014-12-10 20:48                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-10 22:10                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-10 20:09                                   ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2014-12-10 20:28                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  9:58                   ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-05 15:44                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:37                       ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-05 19:36                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:34                     ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-05 17:40                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-05 17:54                         ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-06 12:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-06 18:56                           ` publicizing Emacs contribute Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 19:29                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-12-07  1:00                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-07  1:33                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-12-08  0:23                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-07  9:21                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-07 23:06                               ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-05 18:04                       ` More metaproblem Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-06 10:19                       ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-05 11:45                   ` Phillip Lord
2014-12-06  5:17                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-06 10:17                       ` David Kastrup
2014-12-06 16:45                         ` Drew Adams
2014-12-06 10:30                       ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-03 22:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04  3:32             ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04  6:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 18:37   ` master e820f16: Added file-tree-walk to files.el Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 18:57     ` Eric S. Raymond

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