From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Metaproblem, part 3 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:45:08 +0900 Message-ID: <87tx19jpqz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203193110.GF12748@thyrsus.com> <20141203215426.GA15791@thyrsus.com> <87ppbzplcw.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83iohr48kr.fsf@gnu.org> <83388u4bps.fsf@gnu.org> <87egsejkrt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417844740 13893 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2014 05:45:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 05:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 06:45:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx8BP-0005Cq-E4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 06:45:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53452 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx8BM-0006ZH-W2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:45:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx8BC-0006ZC-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:45:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx8B4-0003bu-IS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:42849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx8B4-0003aZ-A1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:45:10 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F2AC1C3909; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:45:09 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DE2EB1A2CFC; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:45:08 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87egsejkrt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179094 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > It would be nice to explicitly let posters know that they can ask > someone for help with implementing a feature/squashing a > bug. There's lots of helpful advice here and on emacs.help, but > that's not quite the same as knowing that someone has committed (to > some extent) to assisting you. I see worries about "hostile" environment, and suggestions for making things more welcoming to new contributors. I have to ask, what do all you folks who are suggesting Emacs change its procedures think is in it for the mentors and core developers?