From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rodolfo Medina Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [solved] Re: How to uninstall Emacs? Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:38:53 +0000 Message-ID: <87twwgaxrm.fsf@gmail.com> References: <878ue21nkc.fsf@gmail.com> <87fv88q4t5.fsf@debian.uxu> <87sic6stcg.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <20150411125610231765777@bob.proulx.com> <87lhhx7f6s.fsf@gmail.com> <874mojtxx5.fsf@debian.uxu> <20150415152734176578287@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429198586 22794 80.91.229.3 (16 Apr 2015 15:36:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:36:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 16 17:36:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yilpx-0000WM-W7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:36:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37428 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yilpw-0004M3-VG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45095) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yilpe-0004Ij-9f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:35:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yilpb-0002sE-Dl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:35:58 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yilpb-0002rn-74 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:35:55 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YilpZ-0000Cz-4F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:35:53 +0200 Original-Received: from rm-19-18-239.service.infuturo.it ([151.19.18.239]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:35:53 +0200 Original-Received: from rodolfo.medina by rm-19-18-239.service.infuturo.it with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:35:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rm-19-18-239.service.infuturo.it User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IUFWos+RYyqinOzO6rwFmJLgM0s= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103764 Archived-At: Bob Proulx writes: > Emanuel Berg wrote: >> Bob Proulx writes: >> > This is just one of the things that person running >> > Sid Unstable is expected to know. Because Unstable >> > isn't recommended for people who don't. >> >> That is a bit exaggerated especially if we talk >> a computer for desktop use with no indispensible >> service relying on the computer's >> around-the-clock functionality. > > If you treat it as you are suggesting, as a victim system for testing > and learning, then I agree. Play. Learn. > >> What you don't know you can learn by crashing the >> computer because you didn't know it. If you do that, >> you'll know for sure you didn't know it :) > > But the problem is that people don't actually do that very often. > They don't learn first with a victim system and then work through the > problems. Instead people run their critical production servers that > way. They run their main desktops that way. And then when they have > problems they complain that the OS is terrible, it crashed their > desktop, they can't read their email, help!, and they sling enough mud > at it. They can't wait to move off that terrible horrible > distribution and move to the next one which is a thousand times > better. Really! I see this all of the time! I've been using Debian for nine years now and have never thought nor do I think to change. Sid difficult to use? Perhaps, but I want to try. And learn at my own risk. Also Linux instead of Windows was difficult, also plain TeX instead of LaTeX, also Emacs instead of any other text editor were difficult to use and they discouraged me to do so, but I've been using all them for many years now and am happy with them. With Debian Sid I will see. Maybe I'll get back to Stable, maybe not. Thanks, Rodolfo