From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: serving ELPA over HTTP/S Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 17:20:46 +0000 Message-ID: <87twvsl0nl.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <87oam08ofr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k2wo8kd7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d22g8h7d.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430760074 29457 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2015 17:21:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 17:21:14 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 19:21:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YpK3J-0000Zz-5M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 19:21:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35296 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpK3I-0003tQ-CC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 13:21:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpK37-0003hQ-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 13:20:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpK36-0005V7-Pq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 13:20:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2]:53188) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YpK36-0005UP-7X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 13:20:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=YobjUPji6pXj8i6qd6zE2CGilmWqxxuaAFoX1ibteUc=; b=lH3PdnF7SwxLxKNiyM2CrNF7G3VJnj269LLutHljEF6xqN6itVHyyOUMz3LXmpblLcvkgP3TcdXXVDPfideHFDiaam8EQgZe0XeRHWcgU4fA0VorfQMdRx1Y3DkfJnac5r2KZlLZn7/MQsgFSu0xjuCiVEHC9f+F3Z9mDCJ98M4=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YpK34-0005ik-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2015 17:20:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YpK2w-0004xD-RI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 00:20:46 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87d22g8h7d.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 04 May 2015 12:01:42 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186197 Archived-At: >>>>> "TZ" =3D=3D Ted Zlatanov writes: >>>>> On Mon, 04 May 2015 11:41:09 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: [=E2=80=A6] TZ> * warn and possibly abort when ELPA transfers are done over HTTP * TZ> offer to switch the "gnu" ELPA archive to https://elpa.gnu.org SM> Why? TZ> Because HTTP is worse than HTTP/S as a software delivery channel in TZ> almost every way. =E2=80=A6 Except for the cache-ability, where HTTP is a sure winner. Debian, which is known to use HTTP for deliver .deb packages for decades now, even offers specialized software to use as an HTTP caching proxy for APT repositories =E2=80=93 such as apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng and approx. The software which isn=E2=80=99t entirely out of any demand; consider, e. g., [1]: rank name inst vote old recent no-files 2036 apt-cacher-ng 1473 964 411 97 1 3408 apt-cacher 358 297 51 8 2 3677 approx 288 246 39 3 0 [1] http://popcon.debian.org/source/by_vote.gz [=E2=80=A6] --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://am-1.org/~ivan/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A