From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Karpov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20943: 25.0.50; Dired buffers are not always auto-reverted Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:46:43 +0600 Message-ID: <87twtcsbdo.fsf@openmailbox.org> References: <87y4j1oy87.fsf@openmailbox.org> <87pp41cvl1.fsf@openmailbox.org> <83615tv14o.fsf@gnu.org> <874mldtkl9.fsf@openmailbox.org> <874mld18cx.fsf@gmx.de> <87egkh3yav.fsf@openmailbox.org> <83si8wbm9i.fsf@gnu.org> <871tggttxc.fsf@openmailbox.org> <83k2u8bi4g.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1436514692 1529 80.91.229.3 (10 Jul 2015 07:51:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 07:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20943@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 10 09:51:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDT5S-0002I9-Hh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:51:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43453 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDT5R-00024X-7z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:51:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDT5N-00023y-Tb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:51:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDT5K-0004x4-Kr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:51:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44456) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDT5K-0004wf-H3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDT5K-0004Fs-5g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mark Karpov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 07:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20943 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20943-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20943.143651462916306 (code B ref 20943); Fri, 10 Jul 2015 07:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20943) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2015 07:50:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45902 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDT4m-0004Ev-Qd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:50:29 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp2.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.36]:46284) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDT4j-0004Eh-KB for 20943@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 03:50:26 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3813A202132; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:50:24 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=openmailbox.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :mime-version:user-agent:message-id:in-reply-to:date:date :references:subject:subject:from:from:received; s=openmailbox; t=1436514622; bh=X9V2XakWvGi5CTzbn1QWA6nsBRt/tQ4BQVOngA42/X8=; b= hHeh/wm+lnEkXW308tREl9vgx8uVKmF4i8D8sjviuGc6ifzLfVlfh7XvKNFcc7xL FON2AgRMGgHJ8SIamyKOh2MsM9ng8x9OfTWdac5+ZYbYfaSjPu5zJNo9qc5469pj ysVFn3rHJiGG3nziY3Gbgqr6AuINCmh1Gx2Xi+pdT9w= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at openmailbox.org Original-Received: from mail2.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.33]) by localhost (mail.openmailbox.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id QlCbumf98zY5; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:50:22 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83k2u8bi4g.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:13:03 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104880 Archived-At: You're saying: > Why is such a different logic a good idea? If the user requests > auto-reverts in a remote directory, she should get what she asked for, > IMO. It would be confusing to have different results depending on > whether the directory is local or not. >From this I understand that you are in favor of =E2=80=9Cdynamic=E2=80=9D auto-revert-mode for remote directories. This makes sense, if user chooses to auto-revert Dired buffers, =E2=80=98she should get what she asked for=E2=80=99 =E2=80=94 that's right. > But the price is the need to re-read remote directories, and we want > to avoid that price, if possible. But this is not possible. This contradicts with the previous quotation. Let it be re-read. User can disable it anyway. If revertion of buffers is slow, chances are user won't even enable it if he works with remote directories. If it's slow/better to be avoided, don't use it, use good ol' Dired without auto-revert magic. If you're expecting Dired buffers to be =E2=80=9Cdynamic=E2=80=9D, this is your choice =E2=80= =94 you will have to re-read directories more often. It's as simple as that (at least for me).