From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: on ``An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp'' Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:00:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87twlp36of.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87oac34e2o.fsf@debian.uxu> <871t8z6tgc.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87io297a26.fsf@debian.uxu> <87h9hsheov.fsf@mbork.pl> <87vb687y6s.fsf@debian.uxu> <874mdrh8zq.fsf@mbork.pl> <87zivi7m7n.fsf@debian.uxu> <87y4b2cfhg.fsf@mbork.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454529700 30096 80.91.229.3 (3 Feb 2016 20:01:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 20:01:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 03 21:01:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aR3cI-00030z-Q0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:01:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37385 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aR3cI-0004nQ-BW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 15:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aR3bs-0004jg-36 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 15:01:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aR3bn-0006sq-3L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 15:01:04 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46407) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aR3bm-0006sg-SC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 15:00:59 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aR3bj-0002Kg-Ss for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:00:55 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-227.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:00:55 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-227.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:00:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-227.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fWpuI7dAxJi6LdEV/GA7Qg3xuGE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108989 Archived-At: Marcin Borkowski writes: > Of course, I mean /applications/ here, I don't count > coreutils, ssh etc. *iiiiii* - if your were to compile all that manually setting up even a rudimentary Unix system would be a challenge. But there are people who do it. I suppose they get a very solid under-the-hood understanding if nothing else. > Also, I /used/ to get excited by "the newest version > of this and that, and that many megz RAM", but > I agree that one outgrows that ultimately. > When I was a kid, I was pretty excited by hardware > ("look ma, a one-gigabyte-hdd - whoa!"). > Now I consider my computer a shell for my data, and > changing computers is an uncomfortable chore instead > of a period of excitement. That's exactly right! It was the exact same story only when I was I kid instead of the one-gigabyte HDD there was an exciting transition from 800K to 1.4M floppies :) Some people on this list should be able to tell us of huge coils of tape if not vacuum tubes :) > I have yet to outgrow excitement about cool features > in newer versions of Emacs, though. ;-) There is no reason to outgrow things that are good! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573