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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, 23006@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:36:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twjzn0ep.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c024af88-5c38-af1a-bcdc-db8a76c44358@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:10:49 +0200")

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:

> On 03/21/2016 06:55 PM, Michael Albinus wrote:
>
>> And I don't understand why Tramp shall refuse to provide file name
>> completion once the user has asked for this explicitely. Typing
>> "/ssh:host:tmp/em TAB" is a very convincing argument to me, that the
>> user wants a new connection to "host", and she wants also to get
>> completion for "tmp/ema" on that host. I cannot see why Tramp shall be
>> forbidden to do this.
>
> You don't know that the user has pressed TAB. There are contexts where
> the user hasn't pressed TAB, but we still call
> file-name-all-completions, e.g. in an idle timer callback, to show
> what *would* happen *if* they press tab.

Yes, that would be a legitimate scenario to ask Tramp not to open a new
connection. It's the first time somebody explained this, as far as I'm
aware of, thanks!

So maybe we need two different flags for Tramp: One to suppress opening a
new connection under any circumstances, and one flag to tell Tramp that
we are in the file name completion business, and it shall open a new
connection only it is safe (like seeing a slash in the local file name
part). Remember my scenario about ediff'ing remote files; I *want* file
name completion for the second file, even if there's no established
connection yet.

>> But again, *this* bug report is not about what Tramp does when
>> non-essential is bound to non-nil. *This* bug report is about, that
>> non-essential is nil, although file name completion is
>> undergoing. Remember, we are in eshell, the user has typed "cd /", and
>> afterwards she has called pcomplete.
>
> Sure. I'm the author of this report. Still, it would be nice to have
> `non-essential' have the intended effect.

Still, it would be nice to have let-bound non-essential in order to get
an effect.

Best regards, Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-14  2:01 bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14  2:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-14  7:34 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-15  3:31   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-15  8:43     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-15 11:09       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17  0:42       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-17 19:43         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-17 19:44           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17 19:54             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-17 22:55               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-18  8:27                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 16:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-18 17:01                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 17:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-18 20:21                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 22:41                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-19  8:28                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-19 12:35                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-19 15:28                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-19 20:04                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 15:08                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:23                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 15:46                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 16:10                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 20:40                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 22:17                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 22:28                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 15:57                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:38                                       ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 15:54                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:59                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 20:31                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 20:44                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 20:53                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 21:05                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 22:19                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 15:49                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 19:26                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22  9:27                                                           ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:02                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:05                                                               ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:19                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 15:46                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 15:49                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:03                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 16:13                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:25                                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 16:45                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:55                                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 18:10                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 18:36                                                                     ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2016-03-21 21:26                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-22  9:47                                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:05                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:20                                                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:37                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:50                                                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 14:01                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-24  1:00                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 19:23                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22  9:25                                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:02                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:08                                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:18                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:35                                                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:38                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:50                                                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-24  0:54                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 13:15                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-24 13:54                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 15:56                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 16:38                                           ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 19:48                                             ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 20:42                                               ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 22:51                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17  0:50   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-17 19:49     ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 16:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-09 18:52 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-15 12:42 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-17 11:30   ` Dmitry Gutov

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