From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dired: Improve symmetry in mark/unmark commands bound to keys Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:07:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87twd512pk.fsf@linux-m68k.org> References: <877fa12iyq.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <83h995ay04.fsf@gnu.org> <87y42h13pi.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <83fuopax4g.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1474747688 5629 195.159.176.226 (24 Sep 2016 20:08:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:08:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 24 22:08:04 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bntEn-000832-Lo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:07:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35435 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bntEl-0003tM-Sm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:07:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40491) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bntEf-0003qk-Ox for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bntEd-00031G-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:07:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1]:43238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bntEY-0002v7-Q6; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:07:38 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3shLqs1cJrz3hkd6; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:07:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3shLqs1HLXzvkdL; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:07:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5QBPSmaBCmn0; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:07:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 8XvTjMLTJsRAO6vn0500OES1u9n0eZZysan5hInpoxXJL0KqkHtiwx2gT8EuwCKU Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-22-91.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.22.91]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:07:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F1DA52C33A7; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:07:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: Go on, EMOTE! I was RAISED on thought balloons!! In-Reply-To: <83fuopax4g.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:58:07 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207767 Archived-At: On Sep 24 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Andreas Schwab >> Cc: tino.calancha@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:46:01 +0200 >> >> >> There is no need for dired-mark-or-unmark-extension, >> >> dired-mark-extension should to that already. Since the prefix argument >> >> has always been useless it is ok to change its meaning, and make it >> >> consistent with all other dired commands. >> > >> > I disagree and object to such a change. >> >> But is the only way that makes sense. You objection has no grounds. > > I stated my grounds. They might not make sense to you, but they do to > me. No, they make absolutely no sense. The prefix was obviously never intented to be used with this command. The only intented use of the second argument was the its caller, dired-flag-extension. That is easy to prove, because before commit 736b582 it wasn't even documented in the doc string. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."