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From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs-25 f708cb2: Clarify doc string of 'transpose-sexps'
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 18:08:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twbncgve.fsf@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <977b7eaa-1c5f-4d8b-be5d-33ec73f5a962@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 4 Nov 2016 09:44:30 -0700 (PDT)")

On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 09:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

>> > What does it mean to be in the middle of a list, for example?
>> > A case mentioned in the bug report is this:
>> >
>> >>> When point is in the middle of a list it can also be between two
>> >>> sexps, which themselves could be lists: ((foo)|(bar)), with
>> >>> point at |.
>> >
>> > Point here is in the middle of the outer list, but it is between
>> > the two inner lists.  Any text description needs to be more careful
>> > and explicit, if it really wants to make the point clear.
>> 
>> I think a reasonable interpretation of "in the middle of a sexp" is
>> that the relevant sexp
>
> What "relevant sexp"?  To say that point is in the middle of a
> sexp does not imply that it is in the middle of only one sexp.
> There might be any number of such in-the-middle-of, "relevant"
> sexps.

>> is the one whose start and end are closer to point (counting
>> leftwards and rightwards from point, respectively) than those
>> of any other sexp.
>
> If that's what is meant then that's what the doc should say:
> "the innermost sexp containing point".

I think that's unnecessary if this is a "reasonable interpretation",
i.e. it's common sense, so making it explicit tends to be pedantic.  Do
you really think this is not the common sense way of understanding it?
If so, I guess you have a function in mind that behaves differently;
which one?

Steve Berman



  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-04 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2016-11-04 14:09   ` emacs-25 f708cb2: Clarify doc string of 'transpose-sexps' Stephen Berman
2016-11-04 14:31     ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 15:47       ` Stephen Berman
2016-11-04 16:44         ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 17:08           ` Stephen Berman [this message]
2016-11-04 17:21             ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 17:50               ` Stephen Berman
2016-11-04 18:00                 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 18:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-04 18:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-04 18:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-04 18:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-11-04 19:36                     ` Drew Adams

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