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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: aminb@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	joaotavora@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org,
	john@yates-sheets.org
Subject: Re: Three cheers for Eli!
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 19:00:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvq4gf2k.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1fSXF7-0001fN-Bm@fencepost.gnu.org>


On 2018-06-12, at 02:33, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>   > > At the risk of sounding quite rude and assuring it's not my intention at
>   > > all: do you _like_ to be called an animal?
>
>   > Wow, I didn't see that coming.  Even if the analogy is slightly flawed,
>   > point taken.
>
> I think it is a very good analogy.  Every human being is, in fact, an
> animal.  (I doubt any plants, fungi, or unicellular organisms are
> reading this message.)  Nonetheless, calling someone an "animal" has
> another meaning, and people don't like to be called "animals".

As I said, I agree the analogy is good (even if it has some flaws).

> Calling the person a "Republican" -- who actually disagrees with that
> party -- is perhaps a closer analogy.

I actually think it is much worse.  For starters, while all humans are
(at least in certain technical sense) animals, they are so much more
that calling them "animals" is offensive.  That is not true of any
political party.  Last but not least, what is truly offensive is calling
someone "left-wing" (admittedly, both Republican and Democratic parties
in the US are quite strongly left-wing, but Democrats seem to be much
worse in that regard).

Best,

--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl



  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-15 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-28 17:42 Three cheers for Eli! Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-28 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-28 19:39 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-05-28 20:29   ` John Wiegley
2018-05-30 10:29     ` Van L
2018-05-28 19:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2018-05-29  1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-29 13:52   ` T.V Raman
2018-05-29  3:10 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-29 16:54   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-29 18:02     ` George Plymale II
2018-05-30  7:04       ` Tim Cross
2018-05-30 10:53         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-03 18:29       ` Jefferson Carpenter
2018-05-29 14:02 ` Drew Adams
2018-05-29 14:40   ` Rostislav Svoboda
2018-05-29 15:10     ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2018-05-30  7:23 ` Andreas Röhler
2018-05-30  8:15   ` Boruch Baum
2018-05-30 10:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-05-31 15:59   ` Kaushal Modi
2018-05-31 22:57     ` John Yates
2018-06-01  8:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-01  3:02     ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-01 14:02       ` John Yates
2018-06-02  3:29         ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-02 12:30           ` John Yates
2018-06-03  2:32             ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-03 14:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-04  4:16                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-04  4:47                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-04  5:09                   ` Amin Bandali
2018-06-04  8:30                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-04  8:53                       ` Van L
2018-06-04 15:49                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-07 17:05                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-07 18:00                           ` João Távora
2018-06-11  3:25                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-11 13:50                               ` Joshua Branson
2018-06-12  0:35                                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-12  0:33                               ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-15 17:00                                 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2018-06-15 17:44                                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-06-15 18:03                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-15 18:10                                       ` João Távora
2018-06-04 23:29                       ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-07 17:06                         ` Marcin Borkowski

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