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From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
To: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com>
Cc: 31946@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: bug#31946: 27.0.50; The NSM should warn about more TLS problems
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 20:14:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvpnojgt.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKDRQS4MnAJfwxtQoss5vFikpwyzt-7tG3Ghkc+whSdsP9C2cA@mail.gmail.com> (Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong's message of "Wed, 27 Jun 2018 06:09:25 +0100")

Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com> writes:

> Tidbit: The GnuTLS basically ignored a group of Adobe researchers when they
> reported to them GnuTLS was susceptible to the small group
> attack[7]...

> [7]: https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/995.pdf

I guess the report is here (the reporter, Luke Valenta, is the first
author of the paper): https://gitlab.com/gnutls/gnutls/issues/104

The paper just says "didn't patch", but looking in the details of the
report, Luke says:

    From a client's perspective, the TLS protocol limitation does
    prevent "q" from being specified. However, since a server knows the
    value of "q", it should be perform proper subgroup validation checks
    as a precaution against small subgroup attacks[...]

    I agree that since the server does not reuse ephemeral DH keys, it
    is not currently vulnerable to a small subgroup attack.

So, the client side can't be patched, and the server side doesn't really
need to be patched (just leave the "reuse ephemeral key" option turned
off).

Furthermore, it seems gnutls has added support for standardized primes,
so that pretty much resolves the issue as much as it can be:

https://gitlab.com/gnutls/gnutls/merge_requests/437





  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-28  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-23 10:38 bug#31946: 27.0.50; The NSM should warn about more TLS problems Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 13:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-26  1:23 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-26  4:11   ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-26  6:26     ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-26 12:44       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-26 14:38       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-03 15:08       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-04  1:34         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-08 14:20           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:21           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:34             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:50               ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-08 20:01                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-10  2:04                   ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-22 11:05                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-29 14:45                       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-08 18:36             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:20               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:23           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-26  9:27   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-26 14:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-27  0:45       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-27  5:09         ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-27 12:07           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-27 12:20             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-27 15:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-27 16:40                 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-28 16:10                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-28  0:14           ` Noam Postavsky [this message]
2018-06-28 15:58             ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-28 16:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-28 16:42                 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-28 17:01                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-28 18:15                     ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-29  5:21                       ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-29  5:25                         ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 17:28                           ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 20:30                             ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-30 23:15                               ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 23:35                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-01 15:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-26  4:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-26 13:13   ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-26 16:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-26 17:45       ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-26 18:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-26 18:19           ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-26 19:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-26 22:56               ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-27  7:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-27 15:25                   ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-27 15:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-27  8:01 ` bug#31946: 27.0.50; GnuTLS still crashes on MinGW Markus Weber
2019-08-27 15:00   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-27 15:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-29  8:05       ` mw
2019-08-29 12:20         ` Eli Zaretskii

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