From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Jean-Christophe Helary
<jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Ctrl-[ ?
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 08:21:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvd29cxq.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83v9xirdcr.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2019-06-06, at 16:35, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>
>> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 22:25:17 +0900
>>
>> Why is it useful to have different behavior on GUI and TTY frames?
>>
>> Because expectations are different ?
>
> Are they? I don't think so.
Of course they are.
I don't expect to be able to view a pdf in Emacs on a TTY frame, for
instance.
But (to be more serious) I also expect some keybindings not to work on
a TTY frame.
And let me mention that I consider Jean-Christophe's emails extremely
valuable. It's not often that we have a normal person (aka
non-(technical geek) - as opposed to a (non-technical) geek, which
Jean-Christophe seems to be;-)) here. There are people outside IT that
want to use Emacs, and every bit in the manual that is confusing for
them is worth being fixed.
Also, even though I've been an Emacs user for about two decades now, and
I've been a computer geek for about three decades now, the ESC / C-[
legacy is still rather baffling for me.
My 2 cents,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-07 6:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-06 4:49 Ctrl-[ ? Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 7:26 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 8:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-06 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-06 12:37 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-06 13:28 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 12:44 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-06-06 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-06 13:25 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 6:21 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2019-06-07 8:34 ` joakim
2019-06-06 13:26 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-06 13:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-06-06 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-06 15:01 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 15:33 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-06 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-06 17:33 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-06 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-06 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-06 18:48 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-06 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 15:02 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-07 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 21:01 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-07 23:48 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-08 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-12 8:08 ` Søren Pilgård
2019-06-12 8:56 ` Ergus
2019-06-06 18:55 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-10 0:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-06-10 0:42 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-10 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-11 15:36 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-06-11 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-11 16:31 ` Yuri Khan
2019-06-12 12:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-06-12 12:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-06-12 13:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-12 13:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-06 13:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-06 14:00 ` Drew Adams
2019-06-06 12:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-06 12:58 ` Ralph Seichter
2019-06-06 13:42 ` tomas
2019-06-06 14:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-06 15:27 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 18:29 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-06 23:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-06 23:26 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-06 23:35 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-07 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 11:43 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-07 13:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-07 22:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-08 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-08 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-07 3:36 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-06-07 4:30 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-07 4:43 ` Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
2019-06-07 5:04 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-07 6:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 8:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-07 8:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 13:19 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-07 13:54 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-07 14:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-07 15:17 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-07 13:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-07 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 18:20 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-07 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-07 16:30 ` tomas
2019-06-08 0:05 ` Francis Belliveau
2019-06-08 0:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-08 8:44 ` tomas
2019-06-08 11:48 ` 조성빈 via help-gnu-emacs
2019-06-08 11:56 ` tomas
2019-06-08 13:06 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-08 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-08 13:54 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-08 14:03 ` tomas
2019-06-08 14:22 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-08 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-09 0:52 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-09 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-09 6:51 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-06-08 13:58 ` tomas
2019-06-08 19:40 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-08 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-08 20:28 ` tomas
2019-06-08 21:03 ` Francis Belliveau
2019-06-08 21:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-09 0:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 1:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-06-18 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-11 23:05 ` Francis Belliveau
2019-06-14 6:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:06 ` [offtopic] " Van L
2019-06-14 12:24 ` tomas
2019-06-15 9:12 ` Van L
2019-06-15 9:44 ` tomas
2019-06-15 12:38 ` Van L
2019-06-09 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
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