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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Roland Winkler <winkler@gnu.org>, 21563@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21563: 24.5; discourage load-hook variables
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:33:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv4vy19c.fsf@marxist.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80b979c0-0fdf-4b84-bf1b-cde0a596f8bb@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 15 Jan 2020 19:56:09 -0800 (PST)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> So is the argument now that the existence of load
> hooks makes maintenance too complicated?  What will
> be the next argument?

To summarize what has come up in this thread so far, the load-hook
convention has the following problems:

1. They are never called if set by a user after a library is loaded.

2. They can lead to issues like Bug#24491.

3. They require every package (that wants to use them) to add boiler
   plate code.

They are also redundant since we have eval-after-load and
with-eval-after-load, which do not have any of the above problems.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas





  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-16 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-25 18:57 bug#21563: 24.5; discourage load-hook variables Roland Winkler
2020-01-15 19:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-01-15 20:21   ` Drew Adams
2020-01-15 20:42     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-01-16  0:27       ` Roland Winkler
2020-01-15 22:06   ` Glenn Morris
2020-01-16  0:03     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-01-16  0:24       ` Drew Adams
2020-01-16  0:54         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-01-16  3:56           ` Drew Adams
2020-01-16 13:33             ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-01-16 16:15               ` Drew Adams
2020-01-16 20:30                 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-01-16 21:08                   ` Drew Adams
2020-01-16  0:31       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-16  4:14     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-16  9:07       ` Roland Winkler
2020-04-26 14:33         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-20 17:16           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-01-16 11:49 ` Mauro Aranda

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