all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Gregor Zattler <telegraph@gmx.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Sending mail: line wrapping and quoted-printable encoding
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:52:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv15ux8r.fsf@no.workgroup> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <prg8k122m6i8.fsf@butoi.nyc.corp.google.com>

Hi Radu, emacs users,
* Radu Butoi <rbutoi@gmail.com> [2020-04-26; 14:44]:
> Gregor Zattler <telegraph@gmx.net> writes:
>> * Radu Butoi <rbutoi@gmail.com> [2020-04-25; 20:19]:
>>> I've recently set up my mail in Emacs, and it works
>>> well. Gmail, though, doesn't support [1] format=flowed,
>>> resulting in the hard-to-read comb effect when viewing
>>> on mobile, which I'd like to avoid. Doing some more
>>> research, I see that the quoted-printable encoding
>>> (which Gmail does support [2], and I've confirmed) can
>>> also be used to avoid hard line breaks while keeping
>>> under the line length limit.
>>
>> actually I read the two resources you provided as gmail
>> displays format=flowed formatted emails but does not
>> allow a web interface user to send such email.
>>
>> Sine you want to send emails with emacs everything should
>> be fine?
>
> It has worked in the past, but the redesign from ~two
> years ago removed it again. Apologies on the misleading
> link -- here's [1] some from more recently. I also
> confirmed it doesn't work.

OK, but since the web page which states that Gmail wraps
quoted-printable encoded emails is even older than the ones
stating that Gmail does not wrap format=flowed any more,
perhaps quoted-printable also will not work?

And then there is the question who other providers will show
quoted-printable E-Mails in their clients (web interfaces).


>>> More generally, since I'm new to terminal-based email,
>>> what is the etiquette around hard-wrapping (or not)?
>>> Would it be rude to send paragraphs as one logical line
>>> (wrapped-in-transmission by quoted-printable) and expect
>>> people to soft-wrap?
>>
>> I send emails with lines no longer than 65 characters and
>> my mail client (notmuch/message/emacs) allows me to fill
>> the paragraphs while I type.
>
> Same here (notmuch), using the default message-fill-column
> of 72. I also set notmuch-wash-wrap-lines-length so that
> incoming long lines are wrapped. Is this a fair
> expectation to set on everyone? It's one of the first
> things I did, since I still get converted HTML mail that
> would otherwise take up the full width of my screen.
>
>> I assume today's smartphones to be more than capable of
>> showing 65 chars in one line.
>
> I'm afraid not: here's [2] how your email looks like on my
> Pixel 4 XL, a considerably big phone.

thanks a lot for this screenshot.  Obviously this also
depends on the users font size.  I now re-wraped this whole
email to 60 chars per line and hope it displays well.


Ciao, Gregor




  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-27  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-26  0:19 Sending mail: line wrapping and quoted-printable encoding Radu Butoi
2020-04-26  0:24 ` Radu Butoi
2020-04-26  0:38   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-04-26 18:44     ` Radu Butoi
2020-04-27  7:50       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-04-26  8:00 ` Gregor Zattler
2020-04-26 18:44   ` Radu Butoi
2020-04-27  8:52     ` Gregor Zattler [this message]
2020-04-27 22:20       ` Radu Butoi
2020-04-28 14:37         ` Gregor Zattler
2020-05-05 21:44           ` Radu Butoi
2020-05-06  7:37             ` Gregor Zattler

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87tv15ux8r.fsf@no.workgroup \
    --to=telegraph@gmx.net \
    --cc=help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.