From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38066: 26.1; X-Message-SMTP-Method header does not affect smtpmail-stream-type Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:05:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87tuwxs6h9.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ftj3j5hb.fsf@disp2634> <87o8xqcn8v.fsf@disp2634> <87r22m8bjk.fsf@gnus.org> <87muda89mp.fsf@gnus.org> <87woca3x4q.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33232"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 38066@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ryan Tate Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 20 17:08:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8mAn-0008UU-PF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:08:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37248 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8mAm-0002h1-QH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:08:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33440) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8m8h-0008PA-Kz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:06:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8m8g-00068b-7B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8m8g-0005ue-18 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:06:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38066 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38066-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38066.159793593522666 (code B ref 38066); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38066) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2020 15:05:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43413 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8m8E-0005tW-RD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:05:35 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:58760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8m8D-0005tH-28 for 38066@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:05:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cKpKA3LRZXhxnqVAYjV6abmtiz8Rk7gVppo3ElgBwCA=; b=ps+MR89jhi3AlsmWlNzMPqtlZP 8joq8OlL7WQV+lazqwCY9J0yGXCK5jGB3rg0jhKZwD04AIyJGfjB9p86HGEGnNzV2wbLKtCeQXJW1 eFmpMMHS9UqEC6GPLpgFKc0I1eTZ5xx/OFm8WTI6/EgZIKyWvdyDTKXQXXra0Vp1rMO8=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8m84-0004p6-4Y; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:05:26 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Ved Buens Ende...'s _Written in Waters_: "Remembrance of Things Past" In-Reply-To: <87woca3x4q.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:56:37 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:185704 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Robert Pluim writes: > >> Lars> 465 is a TLS port in an SMTP context, and 443 is a TLS port >> Lars> in an HTTP context. Outside those contexts, they're not >> Lars> anything in particular, of course. >> >> So you=CA=BCre suggesting we do autodetection in smtpmail and nnimap only >> (and probably a few more besides)? > > When smtpmail contacts port 465, it should set the type to 'ssl, yes. > (And the same for nnimap and 993.) I've now done this on the trunk. I think Robert's suggestion to add more DWIM logic at a lower level is interesting, but I think it makes sense to handle this at a higher (protocol) level -- and I think the Message level is the most flexible. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no