Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Michael Albinus]

larsi@gnus.org (Lars Ingebrigtsen) writes:

>  etc/HELLO | 1 +
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>
> --- a/etc/HELLO
> +++ b/etc/HELLO
> +Social Media	👋

??? There is already an entry Emoji.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> ??? There is already an entry Emoji.

Oops; didn't notice it.  I've reverted the patch, but that one should
definitely have a joke.  

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Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Michael Albinus]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I've reverted the patch, but that one should definitely have a joke.

Agreed. But I cannot compose one, even a stupid one :-(

Is it possible to tell a whole HELLO story just by emojis? And where is
the Emacs emoji :-) We shall propose!

Best regards, Michael.

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Stephen Berman]

On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 14:19:32 +0200 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> wrote:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> I've reverted the patch, but that one should definitely have a joke.
>
> Agreed. But I cannot compose one, even a stupid one :-(
>
> Is it possible to tell a whole HELLO story just by emojis?

How about:

👋🗺 or 👋🌐

> And where is the Emacs emoji :-) We shall propose!

How about:

🐃

Steve Berman 😉

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Michael Albinus]

Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> writes:

>> Is it possible to tell a whole HELLO story just by emojis?
>
> How about:
>
> 👋🗺 or 👋🌐

Nice! "Hello, world".

I prefer the second version. The first alternative, I read as "Hello, cow".

> How about:
>
> 🐃

Bah. That's a buffalo, not a gnu.

> Steve Berman 😉

Best regards, Michael.

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Jean Louis]

* Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> [2020-10-21 15:21]:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> 
> > I've reverted the patch, but that one should definitely have a joke.
> 
> Agreed. But I cannot compose one, even a stupid one :-(
> 
> Is it possible to tell a whole HELLO story just by emojis? And where is
> the Emacs emoji :-) We shall propose!

It should be M-x as emoji.

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Jean Louis]

* Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> [2020-10-21 15:37]:
> How about:
> 
> 👋🗺 or 👋🌐
> 
> > And where is the Emacs emoji :-) We shall propose!
> 
> How about:
> 
> 🐃

It looks nice really, and I see it is buffalo. But OK, something to
swallow. Good for websites and propaganda. Gnu is type of antelope and
is not really large as cow, it is kind of smaller then a donkey.

Buffalo would be offended if it would be represented by gnu, but gnu
should not be if represented by buffalo.

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Richard Stallman]

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[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

I have rarely seen emojis -- they appear as diamonds in my Emacs on a
tty -- but my understanding is that it isn't feasible for us to define
our own.  So I think there is no way to make a GNU emoji, and no way to
tell a story about GNU with emojis.

Is it possible to express the idea of "Hello" with emojis?


-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[陈志伟]

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On Oct 22, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org<mailto:rms@gnu.org>> wrote:

Is it possible to express the idea of "Hello" with emojis?

The waving hand means “Hello” I thought. See https://emojipedia.org/waving-hand/

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Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Kai Ma]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> I have rarely seen emojis -- they appear as diamonds in my Emacs on a
> tty -- but my understanding is that it isn't feasible for us to define
> our own.  So I think there is no way to make a GNU emoji, and no way to
> tell a story about GNU with emojis.

FYI, the Unicode Consortium has been accepting emoji proposals [1]. You
can submit a proposal about GNU to them.

[1] https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Yuan Fu]

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> On Oct 22, 2020, at 2:39 AM, Kai Ma <ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn> wrote:
> 
> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>> I have rarely seen emojis -- they appear as diamonds in my Emacs on a
>> tty -- but my understanding is that it isn't feasible for us to define
>> our own.  So I think there is no way to make a GNU emoji, and no way to
>> tell a story about GNU with emojis.
> 
> FYI, the Unicode Consortium has been accepting emoji proposals [1]. You
> can submit a proposal about GNU to them.
> 
> [1] https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html
> 
> 

They have accepted so many absurd proposals, surely a GNU one wouldn’t harm. They added Flamingo, Sloth, Otter, Orangutan in 2019. Maybe FSF people can propose one that tells FSF and GNU stories?

Yuan

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Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:52:14 -0400, Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> said:

    >> On Oct 22, 2020, at 2:39 AM, Kai Ma <ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn> wrote:
    >> 
    >> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
    >>> I have rarely seen emojis -- they appear as diamonds in my Emacs on a
    >>> tty -- but my understanding is that it isn't feasible for us to define
    >>> our own.  So I think there is no way to make a GNU emoji, and no way to
    >>> tell a story about GNU with emojis.
    >> 
    >> FYI, the Unicode Consortium has been accepting emoji proposals [1]. You
    >> can submit a proposal about GNU to them.
    >> 
    >> [1] https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html
    >> 
    >> 

    Yuan> They have accepted so many absurd proposals, surely a GNU one wouldn’t
    Yuan> harm. They added Flamingo, Sloth, Otter, Orangutan in 2019. Maybe FSF
    Yuan> people can propose one that tells FSF and GNU stories?

If weʼre going to propose a GNU, surely we should propose a Saint
iGNUcious as well?

Robert
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RE: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Drew Adams]

> They have accepted so many absurd proposals, surely a GNU one wouldn’t harm. They added Flamingo, Sloth, Otter, Orangutan in 2019. Maybe FSF people can propose one that tells FSF and GNU stories?

At least a gnu, perhaps.

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Richard Stallman]

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > FYI, the Unicode Consortium has been accepting emoji proposals [1]. You
  > can submit a proposal about GNU to them.

  > [1] https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html

If someone wants to do this, please write to me off the list.
Please first check what is actually required, to make sure it
isn't so much that you would give up instead.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO

[Richard Stallman]

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > If weʼre going to propose a GNU, surely we should propose a Saint
  > iGNUcious as well?

Is it possible to draw an emoji that distinguishes Saint iGNUcius from
a generic saint?  I have no skill at drawing, so I would hesitate
to declare it is impossible.  But I doubt it is possible.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)