From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:13:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87tup3gfwy.fsf@gnus.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <87tup3hwat.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <834kh39fvj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17385"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: gregory@heytings.org, Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 20:15:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQ1j-0004QD-V9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:15:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38502 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQ1i-0004U5-Qe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44438) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQ05-0003lY-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:35858) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQ03-0002ZL-EF; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:14:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=O6lpLngH24C3xpEF1tfq1AOiRdPzhw9aeULZjDzobuM=; b=UrDW1tLfv9PIAJ7KePSs7PbF0A /gLpD4ZQsFYv1enmEdX99A+OcO30RmZIduQphCtsVvuhQ9b97xb8Mn35/OUjY7/7zHOGTUtxnOSYH WSgpqMMwpQSsdUkoDKaOTu25SMEU/CYhccDF4C+gZecc0uu3UShTAMNHLZ0k/p7M5l0Q=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOPzr-0000yG-A9; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:13:59 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEXq39KMg4SlrcOg bFZbSD12lMMiGRb///85usWDAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+UDFhMHI0vJqJ4AAAGkSURB VDjLdZLNcqwgEIV7TM1+EL1rIDNZx8HKWm+QdUiFfRYU7/8I6QYxaE2OVQrn49DyA4C6QNZJwE6n VuVGu/fVgK9GCJBQJxrJWjZ3s/zPZskYdkhKwNl/+cX1rves97733eIWdD4QLN47srLyt0fwtdRO EQH/SDQViTn2B2Bsneq2B66be7XKq1sFuNmAqoBzbKgApjJwLNWowC2DG2vTbij3WQBtCXYkAq5n qdsSIUDfBLQeCpAXOKc0w6lqYCc45xFkI1DQUPcav3MDSQInBKJR4hqnCgziFT0gp9sSoCS/4ykT UOLZIMB0PupGgG7SHYCrRfBihsOlAQITvMQYDtcGukiJiMTskSnA2vBaXShtC4jBBl7uKYwYKABR DHd5F3AambE1oELGvPPRJP8AiFkTjyCNXANbcWP0prcV0NS6FpYh8KQfyJgJnmmMHik0vmMYx5Mm uJqHmqhGTP95BP/Whf+ucgcq2x5ByJYNvwAXGwyBR1NZ3CN8zF817OrHPYg5gmG7Adxz1jE8pFQ8 1onA7czXQQQkKxpwu9Ym55cf6h73Vs7RV4wAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMDMtMjJU MTk6MDc6MzQrMDA6MDBp+OIoAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTAzLTIyVDE5OjA3OjM0 KzAwOjAwGKValAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Tuxedomoon's _Holy Wars_: "Holy Wars" In-Reply-To: <834kh39fvj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:56:32 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266794 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > I use C-o (usually followed by C-n) many times a day, instead of >> > , in order to suppress re-indentation of the current line in >> > cases where that re-indentation will be incorrect for my purposes**. >> >> Oh, I see -- it's useful as an alternative to `RET' exactly when >> re-indentation does the wrong thing? > > Yes, but not only that -- it doesn't move point to the next line, > unlike RET. Right, but in the use case described, the `C-o' is followed by `C-n', so it's just to suppress faulty re-indentation, apparently. And I think that's a valid use case -- Emacs does get these things wrong now and then, and having an escape hatch readily available seems useful. Perhaps the doc string of `RET' (i.e., `newline-and-indent' in most modes) should mention (and link to) to `C-o'? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no