From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RMS Setup Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 15:25:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87tuow4qt5.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87pmzlft5x.fsf@zoho.eu> <87eeg1q739.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29461"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:SgPLQKcMmvxt+3sppPDes/C75aA= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 27 15:30:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lQ9xQ-0007Xu-VE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 15:30:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60956 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQ9xP-0007rv-Ub for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 10:30:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQ9x1-0007ra-EE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 10:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:48864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQ9wx-0000rR-Kn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 10:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lQ9wv-00070U-RB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 15:30:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128713 Archived-At: Uwe Brauer wrote: > I think it is a bit misleading. If memory serves me, then > Rmail was the *first* email reader for GNU emacs (1987?), > the second one was/is VM (1989), gnus popped up around 1993 > but first as a newsreader and was then rewritten to serve as > a new/mail reader. Yeah, I don't think there should be any rank to it. If they are both built-in, they are formally at the same level. Right, they are _formally_ at the same level :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal