From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Unicode Data Base: Sweden, Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine, and Japan Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:55:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87tuoefdln.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10257"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:tVMrO439SduIpaJ7ebRN7edR5EI= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 10 15:57:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVE75-0002Wd-Cv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:57:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58882 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVE74-0003td-E1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVE5f-0003tD-Qn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:55:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:51832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVE5e-0003Oc-5V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:55:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVE5a-0000nK-Lv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:55:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT=2.499 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128925 Archived-At: OK so the Swedes and Germans are mostly responsible for the, in your words, present terrible situation in Poland? do _you_ think that _is_ the reason? 80%, yes oki :) case closed wait, what are the other 20% you think? [...] amix, OK for Poland, maybe you are right, maybe not, heck do I know. only... Russia (Ukraine etc) was to a huge extent destroyed by the Germans one would agree. then it was their turn, and everyone else's (the bombings, Dresden etc), to destroy Germany. and what about Japan that were blasted clean virtually by US bombardment? even using the A-bombs, twice? ¯\_(x )_/¯ [1] [here everybody had to stop, take a deep breath, and think. ikr? what ARE these chars?] this ¯ is called a MACRON, old name SPACING MACRON this - is called a HYPHEN-MINUS, old name isn't even a dash! this _ is called a LOW LINE, old name not even an underscore but a SPACING UNDERSCORE zzap and zembix, you follow this development? what is that, keysymdef.h? it is Emacs' `describe-char' zzap, "the character's canonical name and other properties defined by the Unicode Data Base" So the question is - how does that work, what is the connection and so on, how do you download (?), parse etc (??), and access that database??? [1] The "x" in that one-liner ASCII-art history discussion argument is actually, according to the mentioned Emacs function, KATAKANA LETTER TU. I replaced it by an x because it seems in particular KATAKANA LETTER TU cannot be displyed properly in an Emacs instance running in the console, i.e. a tty or a Linux VT. Note: Subject line countries appear in the order of appearance. NO! I mean in the order in which they appear in the letter. Let's do an alpha sort just to be safe: Germany Japan Poland Russia Sweden Ukraine Note 2: By "alpha" I mean alphabetical order, not like the "alpha male" or anything like that. But just to be safe, let's do an... oh christ almighty, this is killing me. Note 3: Let's just put it like this. The Swedes are THE VERY, VERY BEST, OK? if we are to believe amix, we are even responsible for 80% of Poland's perceived and/or real misery to this very day! You know, that actually sounds like us, doesn't it when you think about it? When we set or task at something, we like to get it done. you know, for real... THORorly! Note 4: ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal