From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: minimize-frame ? Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 05:05:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87tuknqc8m.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87fsw78apm.fsf@web.de> <878s1ztb2g.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15863"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:TNhirJZTfsAAa9yaZV4d0bTyIKs= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 22 05:06:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6P2g-0003xs-VW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 05:06:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41930 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6P2g-0000fH-0a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 23:06:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6P29-0000eZ-Qq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 23:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:49344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6P26-0003qJ-Vk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 23:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6P23-00039c-Uf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 05:05:55 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132006 Archived-At: Arthur Miller wrote: > It is pretty similar to how Emacs deals with its windows; > but I can't tell much, I just tried it once long time ago. > I am not so fun of tiling managers either. I used to use dwm > for quite a while, and even had my own fork and some custom > layouts, but eventually I don't like it. I come up to > conclusion that I still manage my windows, just doing > different managing operations than with floating wm. In Debian as the dwm package, $ aptitude show dwm dynamic window manager dwm is a minimalistic window manager. It manages windows in tiling and floating modes. Either mode can be applied dynamically, depending on the application in use and the task performed. In tiling mode windows are managed in a master and stacking column. The master column contains the window which needs most attention at a time, whereas the stacking column contains all other windows in a stack. Dialog windows are managed floating, however. In floating mode windows can be resized and moved freely. Windows are grouped by tags. All windows with a specific tag can be viewed at a time. But each window may contain more than one tag, which makes it visible in several views. Please notice that dwm is currently customized through editing its source code, so you probably want to build your own dwm packages. This package is compiled with the default configuration and should just give you an idea about what dwm brings to your desktop. No doubt, an exciting new brand of dynamic configuration! Jesus, is it this complicated? Stacked, tiled, and floating modes? Yeah, if you have tons of windows. How many do you guys have? I have 2, one xterm/tmux/zsh and one mpv :) I remember I used Openbox (not recommended, big and slow, visually unappealing) and feh (retro-futuristic, should be robust, looked like something out of the 80s tho, and that not in a good way; I had that not on Linux but on a SunOS - Openbox I had on Linux tho - they claim to be "very fast" in the Debian package description ('aptitude show dwm') but this killer 1-2 of picom & openbsd-cwm & ... is _much_ faster, and better/easier to config, also. Complete control or sufficient control for me anyway of the windows and the possibility to fire off shell commands by just storing them first, typing them in the WM config file - awesome :) Actually I haven't been this happy with anything computer-ish since I switched from mplayer to mpv! But while mpv is huge, cwm is small... I think feh kicked in on the SunOS system when the previous WM or something else failed, as a fallback system... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal