From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:05:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87tuknoj7z.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <874kctcb97.fsf@cock.li> <837dhp3uqg.fsf@gnu.org> <2114291.0jFjTtfV1S@galex-713.eu> <875yx8bquz.fsf@zoho.eu> <87lf633wc3.fsf@zoho.eu> <87czrcdysr.fsf@zoho.eu> <8735s7pzps.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29957"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:IfaE2hX0PObj8fs7i174ErAahk0= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 21 16:11:46 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Cws-0007VB-37 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:11:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46200 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Cwr-0005Zj-4F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 10:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Cr8-0003JF-WF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 10:05:52 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:33500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Cr6-0007y0-Go for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 10:05:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Cr4-0009jr-TW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:05:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131957 Archived-At: Thibaut Verron wrote: > You misread what Jean said. This is not a list of > programming languages coming from France, it is a list of > languages where some or all the keywords are in French, by > default or optionally. Yeah, I didn't recognize even most of them I think, but there are languages from France, Prolog, right? Prolog 1972 France, Alain Colmerauer, logic/AI programming that is the only hit for "France" in my HIST file: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/COMP-HIST https://dataswamp.org/~incal/bot/scripts/hist https://dataswamp.org/~incal/#bot What about Pascal? Nope, Switzerland Pascal 1970 Niklaus Wirth. Switzerland "Pascal Sol" is French, don't know what that is tho... Pascal Sol was designed around 1983 by a French team to implement a Unix-like system named Sol. It was standard Pascal level-1 ... The Sol team later on moved to the ChorusOS project to design a distributed operating system." Doesn't sound like they had a lot of success tho, see? Should have named it after the great US space-geometry mathematician Yogi Berra instead... But I haven't systematically added "nationality" in the HIST file so maybe some more French connections there, check it out, if you'd like... Here is some Prolog from a person (me) who didn't understood it, but understood it enough not to like it, well, not for that project anyway: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/terror-2/ https://dataswamp.org/~incal/#terror Prolog, CS Sudoku-solver logic-programming thing, right? Too much science for me anyway... But I'm sure it's good. I BTW had a friend who made an interface from Prolog to some database, that to my astonishment when I heard of it didn't exist at that point, so that was a cool thing he did, on the BSc level even! I wish I could CC him this one decade after he probably completed it... > I personally don't support translating programming languages. > I had too many unpleasant experiences with Excel/Libreoffice > (I don't remember which one was translating the functions to > French, but not both, and it was very confusing). ikr? 100% -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal