From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [DOC] About Lisp Data Types Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 16:07:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87tuk9i7gx.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87h7g9h67j.fsf@laposte.net> <877dh5l7rv.fsf@zoho.eu> <87y29ljs26.fsf@zoho.eu> <875ywpgw0v.fsf@laposte.net> <91694A4C-6AE9-459C-BDC9-E97A8D941889@traduction-libre.org> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12685"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:YJVoxmvmiDTpruO6Mx37NKrTzdw= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 01 16:15:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mACFV-00037N-Bu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 16:15:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36466 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mACFU-0004HW-E5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 10:15:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mACF8-0004Gf-99 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 10:15:06 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:57768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mACF6-0005mX-Ar for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 10:15:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mACF4-0002XE-6L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 16:15:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -26 X-Spam_score: -2.7 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_C=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132276 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > It looks like what you find confusing is the co-existence of > a textual representation of a "thing" and the thing itself. > It helped me to read the 2nd chapter of Ansi Common Lisp by > Paul Graham to understand that part of Lisp. > > Page 22 of the introduction to programming in elisp (2.2 > Getting Buffers) uses the same code as the one you refer to > here in that part of the Elisp reference but goes deeper > into explanations between the difference between a name and > the thing it names. What are you guys talking about? Isn't it just source and the runtime instances which are the result of the source, evaluated? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal