From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Entering emojis Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:49:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87tuh4holf.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87cznths5j.fsf@gnus.org> <83zgqxymd3.fsf@gnu.org> <878rygj4gt.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnm0zz0q.fsf@gnu.org> <874k94j3rn.fsf@gnus.org> <83v91kzydh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33798"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 25 21:55:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mf64U-0008c8-4s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:55:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56622 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mf64R-0000uT-Sw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:55:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49620) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mf5yG-000088-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:49:25 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:49530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mf5yE-0006Lv-QC; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:49:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iCK7xXiHlx7dEHzqbGIBG5ddmVFZKZ434oCHKtYMn4o=; b=eMuJujmTlRIo/Xmy2P0zY/r1lH +zHI3+xYDTZ7LJnG8slLnkCdoIxdcMr/0dqT+bq2BhwTraLVxUn4YeAisNhVQzCrP/ueYC3Ol9Mg7 /B3bW0ZVtVEBClCxyAffD4wqiA8cmOH6yYRYfCEhtUpkM6QocraSe4KH8nSgPdYibAEA=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mf5y8-0004ii-Pc; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:49:20 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAMAAABg3Am1AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAM1BMVEX9+dr+/uj27s/P yrXV1c6jo5tfU0j+/vjp6eIWFxIDAwMnLR8rVwxTWB2jUjlLggr///8Y33ZgAAAAAWJLR0QQlbIN LAAAAAd0SU1FB+UKGRMqFfEqFc8AAAGfSURBVEjHtZYJkoQgDEWDCDEszv1vO2ERCdKlzlSnrLYJ /xkISgBQAKAUX9m4AUu24i6/Wus1KUAtcCg7QBo7tTbW6qO3SYd7jZb+GGu0gepSM0MUzW1tngKc 3Vj1KPHULlcFUD4ZJZGb1XdEwF6HWCSlB49m7lvOCM1/murkFdDQhb011q3wXC6G9D0AvhrhWAd4 qsf2qv0b2Azb9nFII7BZco6I7PYJkN6VktoH5/xIqPppyud78t5nxtsnQ7JkvScKiXPmQlyALT2f KAbiiQSvbgHjyJOzMcbgfKD1dtYMkPN7YMDucRzTNAJnx8e4h7CH3elLnkZAp/zQz57NusmQBkCl nIaY5db5+yyh4bQGSkQgOQU1B9CmPLGe0zQuHE5fvs2meVvHejXRzzYB411ixmX+DPALyNs74gxQ b7aZP31x8HYjO+rDW+Cx/lUEATwgivascQ9z2gFqKhLjYWLp62jtmulbDS1AVxRPQgxUSUDJstw7 RDlNhX5e2OeWTwaXo0CblDhXtC6AGZEONLlnAOrKQQ112NJscrCBX7yULBRIhfqjAAAAJXRFWHRk YXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTEwLTI1VDE5OjQyOjIxKzAwOjAwmlIwTQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2Rp ZnkAMjAyMS0xMC0yNVQxOTo0MjoyMSswMDowMOsPiPEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Was (Not Was)'s _Wheel Me Out_: "Wheel Me Out" In-Reply-To: <83v91kzydh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 25 Oct 2021 22:40:42 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277788 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Well, all you need is to type the ordinal number, how hard is that? > And it isn't like you are going to type too many Emoji in a row. You have to know how to get started. >> Do you know an example input method that has a lot of variants? > > How many would qualify as "a lot"? Is 12 enough? Sure. It looks like 18 variants is the max in emoji-land. > Alternatively, we could have a special command, insert-emoji, which > would just complete your input using the table of all the known Emoji > sequences. Then you type "constr TAB TAB" and get the list you've > shown in the earlier message. I think emojis are more in the area of "I know what I want when I've seen it". I've now actually had a look at what my Android phone does here, and it seems quite nice, and is probably what people are used to. It pops up a long field of emojis to choose from, grouped by theme: First you get all the smileys, then all the people, then "animals and nature", and then "food and beverage", etc. When you long-hold the people, you then get to see the (up to) 18 variations per person. I didn't know =F0=9F=98=B9 existed before I saw it, and I don't think I wou= ld have navigated to it via a textual interface. Perhaps somebody who uses emojis a lot has some ideas for how this should be in Emacs. =F0=9F=98=8E --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no