From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51847: Minor Refcard fix. Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:49:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87tuge65sm.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87mtm6x0zi.fsf@gmail.com> <8335nyvkvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsrywz1h.fsf@gmail.com> <83zgq6u56p.fsf@gnu.org> <878rxq4unc.fsf@gmail.com> <83v90uu35m.fsf@gnu.org> <87y25q66p6.fsf@gnus.org> <83sfvyu1r4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16358"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: andremegafone@gmail.com, 51847@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 14 17:50:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmIi9-00046G-I9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:50:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54856 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmIi7-0001dt-N6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 11:50:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmIhf-0001H8-Bu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 11:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmIhf-0004Jb-3l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 11:50:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmIhf-0005DW-19 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 11:50:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51847 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 51847-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51847.163690860020026 (code B ref 51847); Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51847) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2021 16:50:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51462 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmIhb-0005Cw-PD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 11:49:59 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34250) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmIha-0005Cb-Au for 51847@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 11:49:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=opUjyX6YRPyWGrmTKzc/JDl3oH3OMjatX4sddSwsPTk=; b=pfU+X867kH/EVrv/NLQ2907unI Zh3JM+zBDDjdvQPZEQhzqo/qmVtQnJVhdPW/Qy71Xz0/ZYK0BtUfNQOa50Ng4e2wZcJg0MwOvBijL kS9JHrdGjHvbVPSSATw9++dnFISAdGZJHFKYEdqDgvJLt0cZPEL/q4a2mcxxoFQ6RqKU=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmIhQ-0005OC-VU; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 17:49:51 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUEAAFIREM5NTpT UU3///+Ykqf3AAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+ULDhAwKZyAa1wAAAAcSURBVDjLY2AYBaOA KoBRAYcEs8BAO20UDBcAAH8pADXsNnQIAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTExLTE0VDE2 OjQ4OjQxKzAwOjAwRn82ewAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0xMS0xNFQxNjo0ODo0MSsw MDowMDcijscAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Marc Ribot's Ceramic Dog's _Hope_: "The Activist" In-Reply-To: <83sfvyu1r4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 14 Nov 2021 18:43:11 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:219971 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> Still, I'd say that "C-u 0 C-k" is saner than "M-0 C-k". WDYT? >> > >> > I don't know. Does anyone else have an opinion? >> >> We should limit the refcards to key combinations that are available on >> both terminals and guis (if possible). So I don't think we should make >> this change, since many people use Emacs on terminals. > > That's true and agreed, but "C-u 0 C-k" works on TTY as well. So the > question is would it be better to replace "M-0 C-k" with "C-u 0 C-k". Sorry; I missed that you'd changed what you were discussing. Uhm... I dunno. The two are about equally awkward to type, so I'm not sure changing it is an improvement. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no