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Gomes wrote: > >> To my mind such a system/configuration lies at the keyboard >> level. The OS could provide another layer on top, but it >> shouldn't be necessary. The reality is that we're stuck with >> ANSI and ISO standards that aren't sane today. The experts >> please correct me if I'm wrong. >> >> For example, AFAIK, there's no way to program a keyboard to >> insert characters from the russian alphabet directly and >> working for all major OSs. > > ? > > One can do it in Emacs! Isn't that the question? > gnu._emacs_.help, anyone? No, that's trivial. I simply noted that it's a pity that such a configuration can't happen at the level where it makes more sense---at the keyboard firmware level. --=20 Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes "Free Thought, Free World"