From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-28 6170c50: Fix regression in help-mode prompt Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 15:40:09 +0100 Message-ID: <87tufb5jxy.fsf@rub.de> References: <20211213135228.14462.36839@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211213135230.17FE620A0A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83h7bbl4el.fsf@gnu.org> <87y24n5lqm.fsf@rub.de> <8335mvl0qf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16107"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 14 15:42:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mx90a-0003zH-0f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 15:42:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43282 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mx90Z-0004z1-1R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 09:42:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43068) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mx8yp-0003Wh-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 09:40:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:52413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mx8ya-0006te-Lz; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 09:40:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1639492810; bh=FU/A/4RyRmSYJyrj9uJF5v5RO+vMFi6DEHsEpfDoMGY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=QqIUkv0mp4Z7DK7B8uqBoBQsAJYP5ThxFuKzHPg5X+qn+ODlcnr7noBENjs76wR6r g190aLrI8SfnRFOi70sLjQK6GfYE2/86WMYbYnBwZdE2HJvL5jTT3JxAlGV+aL3mwh OXYBKpd2mcnx10gmnZ8DgubVesHgF2ir12S2oIK4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from strobelfs ([89.246.38.137]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MbRfl-1mLsLT0hvF-00brqT; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 15:40:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8335mvl0qf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 14 Dec 2021 16:28:24 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Bwjoscz7M1M5KbugI5U4N/17gtHz4Xw5dfbRYrJ08+znZALqdI0 pDHwqkDISm4hafAXYiRmsYsihp3R1v/wMvWx3XZitvaNx3aXy0PS4T7VYkwqUoEx/Rhzq7y jGV9+m/R1XOEKFE9b1gF1MniJ9md1Dbpl37cZOU9YMuXTSW9KskZG65dkv2qJEaCEESSTEo wbulpi5Vxqj1qaMuwrU1g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:X8EMiI+D2Ek=:lXu1Q1ai1vViTk3JHKthiO Pn5aSO8UVtcU34ZIjSQvuy3VtKqo+2ywWOqHwySi0SQ9yYDTu2FvihzQh8/Rl5mm4Th4+qAyu vRc+z+0zBOQibqlMS4zH+AP7sxlUJnjoc3E00HkvmR9m5iw/XcgXf5jjZyku3/t7g1amEQBq0 406oey8p5lWIi8rRUDVolEGQQ1zG+jbo3R6PfzIkVssHlx7eZzTH5148vUvyWD15wPEk3MBwc Df/+PJyUeQ/zvVk6KSjoxnL/WuJU8JdUgXXV+2qN9Q4BUJpmRVz1IC/EmLei+ItPp/N0es0+1 AxH1+jeJ/QH2qJqfu7qhApsC2oDlo3K2pvWYt4TD2OLHZafnfT+40WEaTUDWsctQhvtwEBUah MBLJzyvoteaMLl9Wee3T26UBSONb0ozWY1e2GN5isBy6com4R8LZRwo0g9DjXJV4ZfRRklWFt BbxbwX0PUzc5vopTrEvSCauYQnpZg6f4WvsRxlqdIoql5i+Qtc2yHlVHGqnh7GbJRFarwrgce CGleQ9a22N307ojIgrLcgqTmO3SzNud1lyZTSayaF3Cq81K+QYtaFQsgrfcvVnRe2qZrb7SY2 gX1CeuPqNefarr27I3D+99F7jpB9orcY/+4dAOE9ILY0TLgKU4qUjyeHEOyrvqiOLgcUxerOg HpGZAq/nml++BHL0QHDHWFfbYV8EUQMEzz2wlf0eDWodhwZbJGNUcLBwq0Tgm9jUMulpvOwDI RZbo1j02Fb4ML2ubzfCSwd37Ub9bN0lDI8zHoB7G291AD9uVrh8PeXDSBoxHaRXQVMmeTwPz Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.21; envelope-from=stephen.berman@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281907 Archived-At: On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 16:28:24 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stephen Berman >> Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 15:01:21 +0100 >> >> > I didn't change the text to improve it, I changed it to make it >> > shorter. Because otherwise, when we echo the keys typed by the user, >> > they overflow the (default) window width, and that resizes the >> > mini-window, which causes an unpleasant effect of scrolling the Help >> > window. >> > >> > If you can suggest a different solution that avoids the resizing, >> > please do. >> >> Is this about the *Metahelp* buffer displayed by typing `C-h ?'? Then = I >> think it's sufficient to prompt with "Type one of the options%s: ", >> since the buffer containing the options is in plain view. > > Those options go out of view as soon as you scroll. I think users know or readily learn that they can scroll back. Steve Berman