From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On Contributing To Emacs Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:39:35 +0100 Message-ID: <87tuerpm20.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <877dbpvsee.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ee5wutyr.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6gjhcc0.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgojskna.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y243pouk.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v8z7sgsy.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24871"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:HdssSD+fT+/rsCvowx2VCvEEDi4= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 29 14:41:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZD9-0006Ex-IY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:41:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38356 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZD8-0006mC-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:41:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZBC-0005q2-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:39:46 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:34998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZBA-0002I7-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:39:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2ZB8-000321-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:39:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 2 X-Spam_score: 0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.2 / 5.0 requ) HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283558 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Óscar Fuentes writes: > >> And basic things like (un)subscribing to a bug, subcomponents (with >> subscriptions), > > Don't we already have that? (Where you give debbugs an incantation > along the lines of "Package: emacs,component-here", and it will DTRT.) > > It's just that not many people make use of it. Maybe that hints at an usability problem? >> not having to CC every participant which is not already on the CC list >> of the mail you are responding to, etc. > > I never found that to be a problem with debbugs. I think you only have > to CC the bug address. Sadly, no. If I submit a bug and get responses to the original report from Alice and Bob, then I answer Alice's message, Bob wont see it unless I add his address to the CC list on my message to Alice. >> Extra points if the new system does not require to read a manual for >> closing, reopening or categorizing bugs. > > I haven't seen such a system to date, and that includes SourceHut. Well, just to name an example, bugzilla which is both popular and ancient, hardly needs any instructions to do those trivial things. >> For now let's put aside cross-references between commits, bugs, patch >> submissions and C.I. runs as something too modern to bear. > > FWIW, My experience is that stuff always gets in the way. In my experience is really convenient. >> It is already possible on debbugs.gnu.org, for some sufficiently broad >> definition of "possible". > > It's not possible on debbugs.gnu.org, which doesn't let you submit > reports from a web browser. The mentioned guix debbugs frontend doesn't allow that either. It says it is disabled, the question is: why? >> Famous last words. > > No. If you can submit comments, you can send e-mail, which means adding > an attachment to the email should be a fairly trivial task. You can attach cat pics too :-) The hard part is not attaching patches, the hard part is to recognize and handle them so they are automatically available to the related tools (conflict detection, quick merge, run C.I. on the patch, etc.)