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[173.56.234.28]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j2-20020a05620a410200b006b9ab3364ffsm17708517qko.11.2022.09.08.05.02.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 08 Sep 2022 05:02:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83k06effg6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 08 Sep 2022 11:17:13 +0300") X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Sep 2022 12:58:12 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:241927 Archived-At: > I see no problem with that, FWIW. No problem? None? The fortune you could have made had you pursued a career in corporate messaging. In all the reams of tail-chasing in Bug#56682 and Bug#56393, I managed to locate just one preemptive mention by the proposer: This feature comes at a (IMO) very little price, namely... point sometimes moves to another column... He is careful to minimize the issue, but he doesn't say "I see no problem with that." Emacs devs are fascinating. Even with no money or fame at stake, guys choose the weirdest hills to die on. One guy repudiated the long lines fix over some cc-mode regression. Another for imperfectly colorizing json. Another for circumstantially forbidding "widen". But none of them appeared to care the slightest about something as basic as "C-n" and "C-p". A "very little price" indeed.