From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: (*) -> 1 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:29:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87tu0m6wn5.fsf@web.de> References: <87y1q1kvdm.fsf@web.de> <87h6wpkrlq.fsf@web.de> <87zgahj7h3.fsf@web.de> <878rhzvs1h.fsf@web.de> <87ilh28w9u.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11822"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 19 22:30:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIcUM-0002rp-GK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:30:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIcTm-0003Ja-Hq; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:29:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIcTk-0003IB-Lv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:29:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIcTh-00009H-M8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:29:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1674163776; bh=nJn0pnxygvok5Qx3mHsotOPO1l3IbjUfZscmKYIEw5Q=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=gn+JZTk3VKZIzIQkeb9ACK/Cy7rOXIcziKdebVidsKIG/zpNGPzfz+pgOwWH1QaHr W61Cv35HmLUdyvcMjdugY9O9vfAyp2z7I4NGGOlI7joOAaXnMfZhUXO9MCCTybYNIb ZX4YxtyfYAnvtaurbis1MQjlHyVv9yPvibQTloSq127jXF/dVvU3tzN4vWbG7e+ahB /DxHo6jagbKaZcRgRudsgK4GsOmSYjcBEhx9VJjt7p/CrXpBLqbauD7ZJsKY6wZFBB AQ0QDQNVDikj8Q4uGVJVoU5OGzqXISlW9dVq1i+d7YRo/NVlaGIdARIjJu1vhWxhZa Fc+f0DUbhBckw== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([84.59.210.57]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N5UkQ-1odG7B3wk6-0170cH; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:29:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:44:56 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:GL0I9485ZpnJX+oaTJd6N+YykzcWXHQl+SC1VnHFILY47IegQRd OeP5sPgzI9rxdxI0J5WhWn9p7oRC2+jNj114gKxDp5jmc0XjDaVTi/z/b1dz8tQWskyPC+1 07J9nexgrOi8aAfH9j7Q03x64vzptwUjWnDyOlmhT3e3u87C1aK4O3Ug7T4qTSU/lWCZRkd PwY13bkaD6I9Mw+4RBfzQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:G5gL1LabgbM=;Ow5A+X9PPuqeL4MB/l9LoiXi+Y4 czZgt6SUr4hHyYRdAO2NprGSAeJHGbF4N0CY3+SDpn49ChX5XQkOeAraCgktLPxa7/+8OxgQw 5q3WIcSSfP7vS0vEe9IUZ+8XhJp7NUD68R+WS5r0XNOego3CPfxskIFT011iMAel/Xkju+2RW gKuZViDoV/4KveBE8nIaZwzG6QpDMfV55DtASNKEMGpiwJdgjFS2uJ6rkLxSeZA0bEuN+wclo znH358FYJG8+0fiB/uMQLVB0+A6pVnRjI9h/YYkJ8eZ9RtqGNL0x8zx3xVIjQNnizwh5vV5pG pqKM+YBEehNtGWN47GMqwtV+wJbS0rb08MhXH1l4pE0B+F6QCc6ghjvWiC5FwOeXLcIFlwrvg hfexX3nr7cbhEx6SZ0O4l4EGjUYc/0PnBUcO6De0e3lHPHyKMWf095r0JqO02c/cRdKpfQELl /xvZrnmTs1sLGQlXDj1uXVnppaoRvOUjkxLqJW7d7w0JsVJGHjdvMKNWdubmv1IV7OLg2seT7 3PieZdBUpfUsdGVJ+MUWuy8xA4BchhmhvEsck5Xap53rWPQfalN1decA/RiVGIU4STz5FRjXz 06xBcIHzp1ItAFgPGwCCINV673kWjuEvxTSVQr/3VmOudXjEClds9Xxr/OCRhlqGYk3JzxTK6 85fPGdvp2xBdUqW21w9NgJg62OnuEqEfetSrjhMuw7gwaTi7CPmcm2FHi3XcGtImGgiOR3B85 +1YGawzmjL0mejeX+DIO2+I3U+rbYE5hRPamedzVaZ5i2HGsYJVIAfmuC3vTnd42i0sEwPaG Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.3; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142442 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Bingo. Ditto. Shoulda just considered it > as trolling perhaps. In any case, shoulda > stopped trying to help long ago. Gave the > benefit of the doubt; wasted time helping. > Maybe Dunning-Kruger? Whatever. Exactly my thoughts. This was really grotesque. He just didn't even recognize how much energy people invested trying to help. Or maybe he was just waiting for someone saying he is right instead of caring about other answers. Eli had the right intuition. Michael.