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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Xie Shynur <one.last.kiss@outlook.com>,
	"61281@debbugs.gnu.org" <61281@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#61281: “`(a \, b)” equals to “`(a . , b)”
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2023 04:03:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttzzsdft.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB54884414F3446BD5486B5FE9F3DA9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 6 Feb 2023 02:26:47 +0000")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> And the question is about "\,", not ",".
>
> (setq ,X  42) ; => 42
> (setq \,X 42) ; => (wrong-type-argument symbolp (\, X))

The other way round.

"\,X" is interpreted as symbol, just as "\,".

What's the question about "\,"?


> (I'd be interested in what the case is in Common
> Lisp, including what a typical implementation is.)

AFAIU, there are different implementations.  I tested two random CL and
two random scheme interpreters.  Of those 4, 3 expanded
,X --> (unquote X), and in one case ,X was read as an atomic expression.

> The question is whether \, and , should have the
> same behavior.  Certainly \z and z have the same
> behavior.  But character z has no special behavior
> inside a backquote.

I think the necessity to escape the comma to get the symbol has been
introduced to avoid ambiguities with uses of the reader macro.

> \@ and @ don't have the same behavior inside a
> backquote.  And neither do \. and . -- only \,
> and , have the same behavior.  To me, that's just
> an implementation/design thing, not something
> normal or inevitable.  Not a big deal, not the
> end of the world.  I minor unfortunate thing
> (gotcha).

In any case, much too late to change it.

> I pointed to the comments in the code.  They tell the story.  But I
> don't think there's any such explanation/description in the doc.

Yes, it would be good to add something.


Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-04 23:23 bug#61281: “`(a \, b)” equals to “`(a . , b)” Xie Shynur
2023-02-04 23:34 ` Drew Adams
2023-02-04 23:43   ` Drew Adams
2023-02-05  0:28   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-05  3:30     ` Drew Adams
2023-02-05  4:32       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-05  4:55         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-05 15:53           ` Drew Adams
2023-02-05 23:56             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-06  2:26               ` Drew Adams
2023-02-06  3:03                 ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2023-02-06  3:49                   ` Drew Adams
2023-02-06 10:49                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-06 16:46                   ` Drew Adams
2023-02-07  1:07                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-07  1:40                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-07 11:50                     ` bug#61281: Double backquote expansion and ", " (was: bug#61281: “`(a \, b)” equals to “`(a . , b)”) Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-07 23:33                       ` bug#61281: Double backquote expansion and ", " Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-06  9:40               ` bug#61281: “`(a \, b)” equals to “`(a . , b)” Andreas Schwab
2023-02-06 16:43                 ` Drew Adams
2023-02-07  8:56                   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-02-07 18:00                     ` Drew Adams
2023-02-07 23:44                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-08  3:09                         ` Drew Adams
2023-02-08  9:06                           ` Andreas Schwab
2023-02-09  1:29                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-09  2:04                             ` Drew Adams
2023-02-09  2:15                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-08  9:12                       ` Andreas Schwab
2023-02-05  6:32         ` Jim Porter
2023-02-06  0:13           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-06  0:18             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-06  1:14               ` Jim Porter
2023-02-05 15:48         ` Drew Adams
2023-02-05 23:17           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-06  1:49             ` Drew Adams
2023-02-06  4:11 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-06  5:01   ` Drew Adams
2023-02-06  5:22     ` Drew Adams
2023-02-06  5:25     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-06 16:43       ` Drew Adams
2023-02-07  2:00         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-07 18:00           ` Drew Adams
2023-02-07 23:36             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-08  3:09               ` Drew Adams
2023-02-09  1:37                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-02-09  2:10                   ` Drew Adams

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